WHO GOT IT RIGHT?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Steven Hufschmidt, Mar 26, 2018.

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WHO GOT IT RIGHT?

Poll closed Apr 2, 2018.

  1. NGC

    19 vote(s)
    82.6%

  2. PCGS

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%
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  1. Steven Hufschmidt

    Steven Hufschmidt Active Member

    MS69.jpg NGC.jpg
     
    Steven Hufschmidt, Mar 26, 2018
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  3. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Who knows? I do know that people will spend outrageous money for both.
     
    Nathan401, Mar 26, 2018
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Completely different coins

    It’s also not a secret that NGC basically flat out refuses to grade modern toners
     
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    baseball21, Mar 26, 2018
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    NGC got it right!
     
    paddyman98, Mar 26, 2018
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  6. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Who can blame them?
     
    Beefer518, Mar 26, 2018
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I think they take it to an extreme but it’s certainly their right to do so. Anyone submitting those to them could have known better with a quick search
     
    baseball21, Mar 26, 2018
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  8. TONYBRONX

    TONYBRONX Well-Known Member

    Maybe its a miracle I think i can see a vision of a spiritual illusion! Smiles!
     
    TONYBRONX, Mar 26, 2018
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Here is another fun one to debate:
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    ddddd, Mar 26, 2018
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  10. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    They both did or they both didn't, after all they are just opinions.....Obviously both have been somewhere in some environment and both show the effects of what appears to be intentional toning. It is bullion and will always be bullion. Learn how to make your own and save yourself a lot of money......:confused:

    To the op post not the above crap in post #8 :yack:
     
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    Dave Waterstraat, Mar 26, 2018
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  11. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

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    Beefer518, Mar 26, 2018
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I actually would have loved to own that Eagle while it was in the PCI holder. To me it is some of the coolest AT I've seen. Someone liked it enough to pass it by at PCGS.

    Allegedly, the owner of the coin turned down $5,000 in the PCGS holder, cracked it, and sent it back. Next time around it came back in a details holder-proof details! :p
     
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  13. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Why did he crack it? Was he going for a 70?
     
    Nathan401, Mar 26, 2018
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  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I don't know why it was cracked. My guess was the person wanted to prove it would straight grade again. Unfortunately for them it didn't work out.
     
    ddddd, Mar 26, 2018
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    And this is what they do for a living...
     
    eddiespin, Mar 26, 2018
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  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That makes no sense
     
    baseball21, Mar 26, 2018
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  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Concerning the 1st post, I think they both got it right. There is a difference in probability. I would let the PCGS pass as it is very difficult to AT an area of the coin that varies in depth and not have it follow the elevations. The NGC coin is th other side of the situation, rather easily done. Jim
     
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  18. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    If PCGS was aware that the coin had been straight-graded previously by them, I bet they were very happy to get the coin back cracked out so that their original grading opinion was no longer valid.
     
    NSP, Mar 27, 2018
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  19. Dough

    Dough My brain is open

    Dough, Mar 27, 2018
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  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Daddy, can I have it back now...? 4415CEA8-512A-455F-8CEB-BB2DCDFD180E.jpeg
     
    micbraun, Mar 27, 2018
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Until 2001 they refused to grade moderns period. With moderns defined as any coin minted after 1964.

    As for the TPGs making comments regarding toning - David Hall claimed that any Peace dollar with colorful toning was AT.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 27, 2018
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