A bit of an obscure reference in the title I'll admit. But still cooler than my original title of "How Rude...Aes!". Anyway, I had been trying for some Rude Aes since a previous auction from a certain individual whom I won't mention until their current auction closes (don't want to jack up the prices any higher. The last one had a starting price of $30 and it sold for $111). I am excited to say I am now the owner of a type of proto currency used by early Romans from about the 8th to the 4th century BCE! It was around the 5th century that these lumpy bronze ingots replaced cattle as the primary measure of value for trade. During this time though Italians based their economies on the bronze standard the Greeks, for the most part, used silver as their standard. Without further ado I'll show you how rude I can get! Bronze Aes Rude, weight 35.881g, length 36.1mm Let's get rude up in here. Show em if ya got em or any other proto currency you want to show off, ya rude boys and girls
Very nice! There are a few on this forum that collect these. I have a pancake Formatum from around the same time. 140mm and around 3110g or 9 1/2 Roman pounds..
Very cool! It looks a LOT like a knuckle bone. Maybe it's the world 1st proto fouree with bone underneath!
I actually purchased mine on forum...with a 10% discount (mom would be so proud). I was reading up on these. I believe yours was believed to be made by digging a hole in the ground and then pouring the molten bronze in. Pretty neat stuff!
Sorry if it's rude to say so, but I have never understood the appeal of Æs rude. At least not at the prices they seem to go for. At <$15 or so, I might be on board. I will confess they're interesting. I wouldn't mind holding and examining one. OK, upon reconsideration, I suppose I can see the appeal after all ... for other folks. Not my cuppa tea, these, but y'all have at 'em, and more power to you. Feel free to ignore me- I'm just being a wet blanket, here. (Credit duly given to @Ryro for a snappy title, though.)
Of all things, Aes Rude seems something to buy only from a trusted source and with a provenance traceable to a recognized find. I got mine years ago under such circumstances but really am not sure what I would suggest for a new purchase. I do not know if NGC 'grades' these or not or if they would feel comfortable looking at a lump of bronze without knowing the find details of the piece and saying with any certainty whether or not it was from a monetary hoard as opposed to being just an old lump of metal. I have never seen one I would expect to fit in a slab.
Therein lies the fly in the ointment, as far as I'm concerned. With documented find provenance, yeah, sure. Otherwise I'd bid or buy based on the assumption that it was a lump of old scrap metal with some patina.
Oh, @lordmarcovan I don't think you to be a rude dude. Just like you noted throughout your post, Rude Aes are just like good ska music. You have to take it in for a few to let it sink in and pretty soon you're tapping your feet to the beat. Ps, Thanks! Just as snappy as some suspenders and a great trombone solo
Reminds me of the three umpires talking... The first says "Well, I don't know about you, but I call them as I sees them" The second says "I call them as they are" The third says "They ain't nothing till I call them".
Wanna know what these remind me of? (Speaking of a lumpy collectible I would add to my "cabinet of curiosities" if I were an old style gentleman collector with a study or library full of shelves and showcases... which, unfortunately, I am not.)
As always @dougsmit you make too much sense. The good thing is mine did come with a provenance...but I'm not sure that it dates back to a find. So I've reached out to the folks at Forum to see if it does or if that information is available. Thanks for your 2 cents. In my book they're worth 2 Denarii!
I like it. I'll have to go to Wikipedia to discern how to draw the line between Ska and Reggae. Maybe start a Pandora channel or two to sample some tracks. But let's not derail this thread. Resume conversational topic of metal lumps resembling coprolites.