Hello Everyone, I'm fairly new to coin collecting and this is my first post to the forum. Long story...but I recently acquired a 1922 No D penny. I've done a good bit of research and I'm pretty confident this is a genuine No D Strong Reverse from the #2 die set, but I have no idea of its grade or value. Can anyone help shed some light on what I have here??
I had some difficulties trying to get a good picture. I took these pics with a loupe over my iPhone camera and these are the best shots I was able to get. I noticed the darkened area too so that's why I posted two obverse pics.
First you're going to have to shed some light on those pictures. It would be worth it to you to try as that is the Strong Reverse. Fiddle around with lighting and light angles and try to get us a sharp one under the date, as well, if you want an answer here. On these pictures, maybe, maybe not is the best we're going to be able to give you. Even if you say these are the best pictures you can take, it's still the best we're going to be able to give you, so that's where we're at.
It's better. You looked at that area with the loupe and you don't see any remnants of the mint mark, it may not hurt to send it off to a third-party grader and get it certified at the price in its price book. Gradewise, based on those pictures, I think we can give the gentleman a G4.
Thank you. Here's more pictures - better than the first ones I posted, but still not perfect. It's hard to see in the pictures, but all of the letters in "Trust" are present and legible. Which third-party grader would you recommend for this? Any idea as to a ballpark value based on what you can see??
PCGS and NGC command the highest prices. When it's in the plastic, it's no longer a coin, but a commodity. On those new pictures, that's a VF20-25 reverse, which will influence the overall grade. As most all of these were pretty darn mushy strikes, that obverse could be right up there, too, and the TPGs do grade them more generously for it. It's still hard to assess the obverse, though, on those pictures. It's worth sending off, though, that much I'm sure of.
I am quite leery myself. the coin has the appearance of altered surfaces. The rim was flattened to make the L appear as if it is on the rim. The wire brushed surfaces make me say it is not authentic. Just doesn't look right.
Aside from a details/cleaned sticker, and assuming it's the real deal, have any of these ever received a split grade? I have no access to NGC or PCGS records.
Thanks everyone for the replies. If it turns out that the coin has been brushed or cleaned somehow, how would that affect value? (I'm a complete novice so please forgive my ignorance!)
It will affect the value but your first task is getting it verified. Only then will you be able to get any real valuation for it. And don't worry about being a novice. We were all that at one point. And there is no ignorance involved as long as someone is willing to listen and learn.
Thanks again. I also have an 1890 dime I believe is worthy of getting graded too and would love to hear opinions about. I'll start a new thread for that one in a moment.
The biggest hindrance would be if it was determined to be an altered 22D, if assessed as real no-D, then the cleaning ( harshly if the surface is brushed/wired as it appears) would "details" would reduce any listed no problems price significantly. If you send it to a major grader like PCGS, it will cost a total of close to $100 ( 60 for error, 10 handling, 20 for return postage + cost for you to send and insure), so do not be in a hurry, it will stay what it is. Read more and get more opinions, it is not a sure thing as such. Jim
If you ever have a nearby major coin show you can attend, our resident error expert Fred Weinberg is usually at these shows. Although he specializes in errors, I'm fairly certain he has come across these varieties before and would be glad to give you an opinion. Do not depend on a local dealer though as most only sell errors and varieties as a niche. And even though they may have come across these, their opinion should not be considered the bible truth. They may be wrong, they may be right, but better to play it safe.
