My 1st coin of Elagabalus

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  1. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    The 2nd of the 2 coins I was waiting for came in today and what a beauty it is. Just look at that portrait!!

    I was going to do a small write-up on Elagabalus when I got this coin, but I saw someone already did a couple of weeks ago. Since most of what Elagabalus is not the best stuff to write on a kid friendly website, There isn't much I can add. All I will say is that if there is a list of the top 5 worst emperors he would definitely be on it right along side Caracalla.

    Anyways here we go.

    Elegabalus
    Reigned 218-222 AD
    Silver Denarius
    Minted: 221 AD
    Obv: IMP ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, Draped bust right, laureate, horned
    Rev: PM TR P IIII COS III P P, Emperor standing left sacrificing out of patera over lighted altar, holding branch in right hand, star in left.
    Ric 46 Sear 7536
    Ex: Warren Esty
    Elagabalus.jpg

    Like I stated this is probably one of the worst emperors in Roman history. Lets see your coins of Elagabalus or any other emperors that fit in the worst emperors category.

    Thanks for looking...Mont
     
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  3. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very nice! That's one with a horn on his head!

    My latest Elagabalus is a provincial:

    Elagabalus Homonoia Marcianopolis.jpg
    Elagabalus, AD 218-222
    Roman provincial tetrassarion, 8.53 g, 24.2 mm, 7 h
    Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, Legate Julius Antonius Seleucus, AD 218-222
    Obv: ΑVΤ Κ Μ ΑVΡ ΑΝΤΩΝΕΙΝΟC, laureate head, right
    Rev: VΠ Ιȣ ΑΝΤ CΕΛΕVΚȣ ΜΑΡΚΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΕΙΤΩΝ, Homonoia standing left, holding patera and cornucopiae
    Refs: BMC 3.34, 47; AMNG (Pick) 856; Moushmov 633.
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great coin @MontCollector - all I have is this AR tetradrachm of Antioch (which I have shared on the Forum before) so here it is again!

    elag1.jpg

    elag2.jpg

    Obverse photo is not perfect, but you get the idea...
     
  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Great example, and I agree, the portrait is fantastic!

    I have a similar coin but with a beardless portrait:
    Screen Shot 2018-03-24 at 1.45.47 PM.jpg

    Because our ancient sources for info on Elagabalus would have been hugely prejudiced against both his religious reforms and any alternative sexuality, we should probably take them with a sizeable grain of salt. In addition, two of them (Herodian and Cassius Dio) were writing under his successor (Sev Alex), and the other one is the notoriously unreliable Augustan History. I think it's fair to say that some degree of "fake news" character assassination is going on in their treatment of Elagabalus.
     
  7. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Couple of Tets representing both Elagabalus and Caracalla. Elagab Hangnail.jpg Ela Gabal R.jpg Caracalla O 001.jpg Caracasilver R 001.jpg
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice 1st Coin @MontCollector !

    RProv AE18mm 4.3g Elagabalus CE 218-222 Thrace Philippolis Moushmov 5423.JPG
    RProv AE18mm 4.3g Elagabalus CE 218-222 Thrace Philippolis Moushmov 5423
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    WoWiE! That's an eye catcher right they'd folks! Beautiful portrait. And I LOVE the idea! A bad boys of Rome thread! Yeeeeeaaaaasssss!:mask::link::peeking::punch::rage::zombie::mad:
    I'll put up 3 as tribute. 2 obvious and 1 whom I'm surprised isn't mentioned as a ruthless ruler more often.
    The 1st is good ol sister loving, senator wife soliciting, horse electing (at least if you believe Suetonius. Which I don't. But who am I to let the truth stand in the way of a great story??) Little Boots! Here's a version I don't see too often...
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    Gaius(Caligula)
    LYDIA, Philadelphia
    Neocaesarea. 37-41 AD. Æ
    14mm (2.62 gm). Bare head
    right; lituus under chin / Winged
    thunderbolt; ATTAΛIKOC
    (magistrate). RPC I 3026; SNG
    Copenhagen -; cf. BMC Lydia
    pg. 194, 51. VF, black patina.
    Rare. Fomer: Savoca coin

    Next up: Having no leadership experience, being super rich and having the hottest woman in Rome as your daughter are not the credentials for a great emperor. Adding insult to injury his predecessor, Pertinax, by all accounts was a great leader and could have done Rome a lot of good if the Pretorian guard weren't so greedy and murderous. Never the less Didius Julianus bought his way into the purple before dying a cowards death.
    20180318_170538.jpg 20180318_170550.jpg



    DidiusJulianus
    AD 193. AR Denarius Rome
    mint. Laureate head right /
    RECTOR ORBIS, emperor
    standing left, holding globe and
    scroll. RIC IV 3; RSC 15. VF,
    porous.
    The reverse of this denarius
    portrays Didius Julianus as
    master ofthe world.His reign
    lasted just sixty-six days.

    And lastly, a usurper who had his own 1st born son beheaded, divorced his wife by having her boiled to death (soups on sweetheart!), he had his father in law hang himself and moved the capitol of Rome to name it after himself. You guessed it! It's "Con"stantine. Talk about history being written by the victor! This guy is now considered a saint?! And people wonder why organized religion scares the crud out of me.

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    20180319_193837.jpg

    CONSTANTINE I
    307-337 CE Æ Follis
    Siscia mint. Struck 335-336 AD.
    Diademed, draped and
    cuirassed bust right / Two
    soldiers, one standard; ASIS.
    RIC VII 252. EF, glossy brown patina.
     
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  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A great coin Mont. Here is my coin of a person who qualifies as one of the worst-Gaius (Caligula).

    Gaius RIC 16 new copy.jpg
     
  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..wow! that is a very nice one Mont.. looks like it could have been struck last week...i can see why you were excited to post this one.:) sick kitty buddy elagalabus coffee 004.JPG sick kitty buddy elagalabus coffee 007.JPG
     
  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Neat coin MontCollector:happy:! You would think that Elagalabus was a good Emperor, judging by his coin image///
    Here is one of mine.... b3b6634a6f67b50eb76385be6cbbe0ed.jpg
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Well, now, Panzerman is a tough act to follow!

    Congrats, Mont. That piece looks like it has nice metal and the portrait is great.

    I think it's better than the one I had.

    RS039-Elagabalus.JPG
     
  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  15. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    Thanks all!!

    Thank you for posting this. I remembered there was another really bad, or possibly insane in his case, emperor that would fit this category nicely and was trying to remember his name.. As soon as I saw your post it clicked...there he is. I will have to add him to my list of emperors to watch out for.
     
  16. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thats a great example!
     
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great coin! I posted this one, my most recent, a week or two ago, but here it is again...

    Elagabalus - Den Abundantia 2515.jpg

    Another one, from the Antioch mint. Elagabalus - D Vota Publica 415.jpg
     
  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    What a gorgeous example of the type, Mont!
     
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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/car-elag.html
    Those new to the hobby are invited to my page above intended to assist separating coins of Caracalla from those of Elagabalus. Warning: There is a test. Note the image below shows two coins with exactly the same obverse legend.
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  20. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    The "bearded" Caracalla looks nastier, he looked better, on his younger images, Elagalabus never got old enough to grow one. Caligula was the "worst" most depraved Emperor.
     
  21. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Well, there's my list, and Elagabalus is there right alongside Caracalla, too!
     
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