is the grade accurate

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  1. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    this is my newp. do you guys feel the grade is accurate? Thanks.
     

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  3. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I would say yes. The photo isn't quite as close-up as it would take to say otherwise. But it has nice clean surfaces, which is something I look for on older gold coins. That's as important to me as the technical grade.
     
  4. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    thanks yea me too. i dont care whatthe grade is if i dont like i wont buy it.
     
  5. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    It's hard to tell from those photos. I would say it's accurate. It's hard to get better than MS62. I've seen some really clean, well-struck coins that didn't upgrade to 63.

    Looks like a little scuff on Libbie's lower jaw prevents a higher grade. Nice piece - particularly reverse.
     
  6. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts



    thanks. you should have seen the coronet i lost for 1$ life can be so cruel a 600$ coin lost for a buck :(
     
  7. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    It's hard to tell without closer pics, but it sure looks clean for a 62.
     
  8. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    It does look clean, particularly the reverse.

    Like you said, it's hard to tell from the photos - but I think there are a few small ticks on the obverse. They're pickier on the $5s and $2.5s than with the $10s; the larger coins tend to have more nicks and they account for that.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    900fine:
    Nice coin, looks conservatively graded.
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Impossible to be sure, from the pictures provided, if the coin is accurately graded.

    However, the coin looks to be of a higher grade than suggested by the holder -- and while it could be an indication that the coin is undergraded, it is more often than not a red flag to indicate there's a problem hiding.

    Be careful...Mike
     
  11. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Could you get a close up of the coin spock?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  12. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    is there any doubt? you guys aren't second guessing PCGS are ya?
     
  13. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Nah! They trust all TPG's, even SGS!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Frank
     
  14. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    It looks accurately graded to me spock, but probably has a shot at a 63. I can't tell as there's not enough detail shown in the photos. What are those darker marks above the FIVE on the reverse? Just contact marks? It's a very nice coin regardless and I would be proud to have it in my collection.
     
  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    From what I can tell with PCGS that it is accuratly graded, pretty conservative. Might have a shot a 63, but hard to tell without the coin in hand. So, to solve that problem spock, you can send the coin to me, and I will be able to give you a better answer. :D

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Maybe. I've never been able to get a $5 Libbie to jump to 3, though they compared favorably to $10s that did. "Same" design ? Mostly, but not entirely. There are differences.

    The bottom line is this : that's a nice coin no matter what PCGS says or doesn't say.

    My personal opinion is that there is a slightly cyclical nature to grades PCGS gives out, and right now they're tougher than 24 months ago. Some will say I'm crazy; that's just my personal experience. Maybe they're thinking if they undergrade the submitter will re-submit. Or maybe I'm wrong.

    I was at the Houston show last weekend, and a dealer had a fabulous Proof Walker with the grade masked out by a stickie tab. He invited passers-by to grade it.

    Almost everybody called it a PR66 CAM. The lowest I heard was PR65 CAM.

    PCGS called it a PR64. No CAM.
     
  17. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    nice coin! :kewl:
     
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