Having already done a GTG for one of these coins, and having other things to focus on this week instead of 9 separate GTG...I figured I'd share the results of my 9-coin NGC World submission. Received on December 28 (when the Turnaround estimate was 21 working days) and shipped on February 27 (told over the phone that it's now 40 working days), and held up over the weekend due to a few "mechanical errors" (worst offense was putting my toned 1964 Washington Quarter in an MS66 holder instead of its assigned MS66+ holder) - they are finally on their way back to me. With no further rambling, here are the coins: Australia - 1961 (p) 1/2 Penny NGC MS64RB Australia - 1964 (p) 1 Penny NGC MS64 BN Canada - 1972 1 Dollar NGC SP66 Canada - 1980 1 Dollar NGC SP66 Germany (Weimar) - 1924 J 3 Marks NGC MS65 Great Britain - 1902 1 Penny "Low Seal Level" Variety NGC AU58 Great Britain - 1894 1 Penny NGC MS65RB (will get some better photos of this when it comes back) Mexico - 1951 Mo 20 Centavos NGC MS64BN Switzerland - 1875 B 2 Rappen NGC MS66BN
So...having had a chance to inspect each coin...I have some bad news. Some of you might remember my last NGC submission having a gorgeous German Notgeld 1923 20,000 Marks that graded MS65 - but came back with a green spot on the obverse. I waited too long to notify NGC of this (it didn't have it when it was sent off) and as such it went from a coin I'd planned to keep to a coin I sold at last auction. This submission also has a similar problem - that nice AU58BN 1902 Penny - which did not have a huge fingerprint on the obverse when it was sent - now has a huge fingerprint on the obverse. At first, I thought it was on the slab - but after wiping off the slab I can see it's on the coin. So now I get to call NGC tomorrow and question their attention to detail when handling coins. Has anyone ever had this happen - a coin come back with a new fingerprint?
It's happened before, the problem is it's almost impossible to know when it occured. With any luck they'll just offer to conserve it and that'll solve the issue
I would think that, since it doesn’t show in my images (and I know it didn’t have it when I sent it in) and it doesn’t show in the cert verification image, it was most likely put on the coin when they pulled the submission to reorient the coin with reverse (and variety side) facing front (as directed on submission form.)
That Weimar 3-Mark coin is just awesome! Amazing lot... Not sure if you're into shooting "unboxing videos," but this one would have been a treat to see! Thanks for sharing, as always!
Haha..thanks @mlov43 - and no risk of seeing an "unboxing video" from me any time soon. I don't need the attention enough to warrant having to hear my own voice on video
Yes! I had a fully RED 1942 Newfoundland Cent that was perfect. They graded it MS65 Red. When I received it back it had one of their employee's thumb print on QEII. I asked them about it at an ANA show, and they told me it was on there when I sent it in. I asked them how many times they grade copper coins with brown fingerprints on them RED, rather than Red-Brown. No answer, except that they didn't guarantee copper. So I sold a $1000+ coin to a Canadian dealer for $125. NEVER AGAIN with I send Copper to NGC. Pay someone more than minimum wage and has an appreciation of coins to place them in the slabs. And, just because it isn't American doesn't mean it isn't valuable. Putzes! This happened in 1986 and I am still upset by it. Obviously they haven't changed their Standard Operating Procedure.
OUCH! I had no idea that this was a problem at NGC. Wasn't it PCGS that put a big fingerprint on a super-rare copper coin that they graded as Red, and that prompted them to no longer attribute Red or Red-Brown? After reading what you people have experienced, I am probably NOT going to submit my 10-Won bronze coins to NGC at the Central States show. Dang.
I wouldn’t worry about it. They both do a ton of copper and a freak accident happens from time to time.
