1972 varieties question

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Wheels, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    I have several 1972 pennies that to the naked eye they don’t seem to show any errors. However some of the varieties I found on the red book are kind of subtle. Do the errors show on both the date and lettering? I will post a pic of a couple I have and 1 Of the 2s May show something but I am it sure. Also what magnifying instrument do you recommend? They one I got does not seem to be good. Thanks 4A972FB6-4517-49D0-AA07-BD87DAC3DD45.jpeg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Your title is correct but your sentence isn't. A variety is a vareity and a error is a mint error.

    Don't forget many of these Cents have Mechanical Doubling and Die Deterioration Doubling.. All worthless doubling.
     
  4. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    and what would be a good glass ?
     
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    We really need folks to get scopes .
    How can we make anything out on these cents ....
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Using a microscope for showing a variety to the rest of us is okay, but we constantly run into the problem of the person using the microscope to find a variety. Most of these are so itsy, bitsy, teeny weeny that they are a waste of time as a collectible.

    Chris
     
  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Each to his own .
    But like this thread, can't make anything out of this coin .
     
  8. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    As stated above, a USB microscope that you can hook up to a computer is good to see the fine detail, but usually just a jeweler's loupe is used. Coins are graded with a 5x magnification, and usually if you can't see it through a 5x, then it's minor. You can get a cheap (~$10) loupe on line that has a few different magnifications. Try to get one with glass instead of plastic lenses. You can also put the lens up to a phone camera to get close up photos to share. This will take some practice. A USB microscope varies, but you can get a decent one with up to 300x (though that is not needed and don't post pictures with that much magnification!) for less than $100. I got one for $60 that I've used for a few years now. It was a generic no-name.
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    The 1972 cent has many examples of doubled dies that are minor and hard to discern. The one thing to watch for on the 1972 is that it also has a Master Doubled Die. This means that all the working dies created from this master will show doubling. Since there are many coins struck with this, there is no premium for those coins. This is true for the D and S mint mark coins also.
    Here is some information on the 1972 with examples. Read the very last listing for the Master Die.
    http://doubleddie.com/384301.html
     
  9. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    I was asking for a good one
     
  10. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    Thanks a lot for this I will check it out
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Not being argumentative, but no electronic instrument can magnify any significant amount with a 3mp or even a 5mp chip without the software producing false pixels. The software uses interpolation to add false pixels to the image based on separated point of known pixels, so much of what is seen at greater than minimum magnification is possibly false image. This why so many of the 'possible varieties ' are by USB scopes. Just use a 10X glass loupe and be more accurate for the same price . My opinion.

    Jim

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpolation
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    If your looking for a USB one .
    Make sure it's a 5MP ...
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    @Wheels

    The above quoted post is one you would be wise to take to heart.
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    That's all I use for looking for varieties .
    The USB scope is just to show the folks, on the forums the variety .

    The bigger issue is folks never check the variety sites, to see how the images are taken . They just take them in the wild and want you to figure it out .
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Hopefully they will do both, use a glass loupe and look them up on the reference sources.
     
  16. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    Thanks for all the insight it is appreciated. Bare in mind lots of members here are new to this - yours truly- so there will be questions, inquiries and dumb posts until we get it, be patient
     
  17. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    It goes like -that is a beautiful old coin, could I find more? Go to bank find rolls. Go online read about it and watch lots of YouTubes. Find it more interesting. Try a new more proffessional aproach. Better chat for it. Find out about red book, usb, etc etc and it gets complicated to say the least and then you guys help us thru it. See?? That’s awesome. :happy:
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I don't see where anyone is being anything but patient.

    And avoid YouTube as if the plague.
     
  19. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

  20. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    What the hell is with all this uuuutuuube crap?
     
  21. Wheels

    Wheels Active Member

    This is very informative and I love the examples it shows are very clear, thank you.
     
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