Trade Dollar Questionable Color

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by IBetASilverDollar, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    This was one I came across last night and struck me as odd that it was listed as questionable color. Figured it could be a good coin to learn a bit on since most of the time you hear questionable color and picture clown colored coins not necessarily ones like this.

    Was the coin messed with to hide a cleaning in PCGS's opinion? If you owned would you crack and resubmit elsewhere? Would this be a coin you'd dip?

    Other thoughts?

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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It's a coin I might dip, but not with a commercial dip. Too wicked. It needs a more subtle treatment.
     
  4. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    That's my grandmother's birth year...nice! Looks good just like that.
     
  5. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    Not my coin, was trying to make it mine they send me a counter offer last night and woke up and it was sold.
     
  6. Packrat

    Packrat Well-Known Member

    That the way it works sometimes. Hate you missed out. Nice coin.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The toning makes it look like the coin was cleaned long ago and is retoning itself. Nice looking. I'd probably leave as is and wait to see what happens years from now. You can always crack it out later as easy as you can crack it now.
     
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  8. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Bummer.
     
  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Probably just one of the many coins that got nuked for no reason recently. The color looks pretty fine on the picture though it may turn out better with Kurt’s magic dip. It may look different in hand but with how the grading has been lately it seems like they hired Doug as a finalizer.
     
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  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    With that coin, I'd take my stock Kodak formula and probably dilute it further, just to prevent it from going blast white.
     
  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That’s be interesting to see how it’d come out
     
  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Amen to that. That yellow gold toning is often what happens after an old dip starts retoning and gradually gets darker over time. I’m sure it would be well worth cracking out and trying again but pcgs has been ridiculous about anything with any toning lately. Bummer you missed it as it’s a nice coin
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Oh wow, maybe "balance is being restored to The Farce" after all, if the top 2 TPGS firms are starting to question toning as they always should have. There was "another". Hmm.
     
  14. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    Yeah I don't normally come across details coins that I instantly want like this one. It was a DLRC coin and they always will accept offers it just takes them a few hours to respond normally. This time they unfortunately responded with a counter while I was sleeping and when I tried to accept in the AM the coin disappeared. Almost a nice bargain bin pickup.
     
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  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    No doubt. What it sell for. I’m sure a crackout dealer bought it to. Try and straight grade which I think it will though it may take a couple try’s
     
  16. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    Not sure exactly what it sold for. They countered it to me at $700 which I was going to accept. Guessing it sold for somewhere around that number.
     
  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Unc details questionable color?
     
  18. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

  19. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’d call it about a 62. So about $950-1100 in a straight grade
     
  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Probably just needs to be held for a bit and let them get that ultra conservative grading out of their system.
     
  21. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Well, it has clearly been dipped once. The reverse color and pattern is a strong indicator of an improperly rinsed dip.

    I don't see anything that would keep this from being market acceptable from these pictures, but a lot could change in hand. Rotating it under the light might show something different. I've heard of doctors applying a light patina to cover up cleaning.
     
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