1964 SMS, PROOF OR REGULAR STRIKE

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Karen Hubbard, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You can have it your way and I and the community will have it ours,
    But really don't you think that there would be more of these certified if they made billions of them. There are I believe under 30 known. So tell me how that can be? The point is you havn't done enough research to back up your claims. Period.
     
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  3. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member


    It is very commonly known in the coin collecting community that in 1964 there were only a small number of SMS sets produced which were not released to the public. 1965 is the year that the US Mint stopped producing Proof sets and switched to producing SMS sets. Then in 1968 Proof coins were resumed and were now being struck at the San Francisco Mint and have been since.

    Also FYI there were just under 4,000,000 proof Nickels struck in 1964. Check any Redbook or and other guide book regarding US coins.
     
  4. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Until 1968 all Lincoln proofs were minted in Philadelphia (no mint mark). With the exception of around 30 1964 SMS Lincoln's found in Mint Director, Eva Adams safe after her death, all SMS coins from 1965-67 were minted in San Francisco (no mintmark). Starting in 1968 the S mintmark would appear on Proof coinage.
     
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  5. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I loves me a good cat fight.......
     
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  6. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I'm puzzled. If they didn't make 1964 proof sets, then what did the mint send me back then when I ordered a proof set from them? It certainly was described as proof and looked like proof, and a dealer bought it for proof when I sold it a few years later.
     
  7. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Go to ebay and look up 1964 sms.
    Then look up 1964 proof set.
    If 1964 sms were so common then why are the 1000's of dollars for them.
    Oh yea look up 65,66 and 67 sms. Its ok to make mistakes. We all have.
     
  8. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    go back and read post #12, there were 3.9 million proof sets produced in 1964...
     
  9. Ethan.Pitassi

    Ethan.Pitassi New Member

    When you're right you're right. I looked up how many SMS nickels were produced through the pcgs site and the numbers are the same as the 64 Lincoln proof but after reading about the mint director Eva Adams I see I was totally wrong. Who would of thought pcgs would give you false information
     
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  10. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was pointing out that, yes, there were proof sets made in 1964, I know because I bought one. I usually don't use sarcasm, but the person I quoted was not accepting published facts. I apologize to Ethan for using that method.
     
  11. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    Proof
    01c 1964 PF full 01.gif

    Business strike
    01c 1964 full 01.gif

    1965 SMS, for comparison
    01c 1965 SMS full 01.gif
     
  12. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    A description of what exactly a "proof" is would be helpful for Ethan right now.......
     
  13. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Just another reason to call the 64 SMS coins SP or special strikes. Only a handful were produced, while the 64 Proofs were struck in the millions. No SMS sets were made in 1964.
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    They didn't do it deliberately, everyone makes mistakes. If you bring it to their attention I'm sure they will fix it.
     
  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Your Numismatic Naivety is showing friend.

    1964 Proofs and previous years) were minted in Philadelphia. As such, no mint mark.

    1968 marked the 1st year that proof coins were minted in the San Francisco Assay Office and they all bear the S Mint mark with a few very rare exceptions.
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Credit.
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    this statement is false and misinformed.

    The Mint made Proof Sets in 1964. The Mint also made Mint Sets in 1964.

    the Special Mint Sets are a very special animal and although they do exist, the odds of finding coins from one, particularly from circulation are extremely slim.
     
  18. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    2.6 Billion??? with a B???
     
  19. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Making stuff up again. It’s very difficult to survive this site when you don’t have good facts when you post @Ethan.Pitassi Some of the members here are industry leaders in the field so NO you can’t get away with it on this site. @mikenoodle just happens to be some one who knows better.
    Hope this helps.
    Reed
     
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  20. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I'm not going to re-read the entire thread, but didn't the guy already admit to having been wrong? If so, he's already advanced more than many visitors we have here.

    If not, my apologies. Carry on...
     
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  21. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Books I’m just trying to be bluntly helpful to the guy so he doesn’t alienate the community.
    He is trying to fit in but with made up stuff it’s hard to take him serious.
    Reed
     
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