Any reason to believe this raw 2c piece isn't genuine?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by fiddlehead, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    I seldom buy raw coins but for a low price they are kind nice to have for the grandkids to actually hold in their hands. bought this one from Europe recently, haven't received it yet. It seems to have nice detail and I don't have any expectations of the surfaces being original or any of that.

    Any reason to believe it might be a fake? Does anyone make good fakes of this reasonably common coin? If genuine, the die problem on rim is actually interesting!


    1864 2c piece composition - raw.jpg .
     
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    No reason that I can see.

    the coin looks real
     
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  4. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    Larger resolution pics (looks like it would get a "damage" grade if it were certified - which is of no concern to me): 1864 2c coin obverse raw.jpg 1864 2c coin reverse raw.jpg
     
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Nice coin for the Grand kids .
    That's for sure ....
     
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  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Is there any reason you're questioning it, or was this just an out of curiosity type of thing?
     
  7. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    I don't know much about copper and even less about this issue. It was a pretty low price compared to others and coming from Italy. So ...... curious, wondering. Seems like it'll be ok for my purposes if it arrives safe and sound. Thanks much
     
  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And thank you for clarifying.

    That said, I have to agree with Mike in that nothing I see suggests any reason to question authenticity. Hopefully all will work out for you as planned.
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Those are some fantastically well made photos. Well done.
     
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  10. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Nice coin
     
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  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Interesting that this came from Italy. But there are plenty of 150 year old European coins all over America too. Even with the damage it's in better shape than my 2 cent pieces.
     
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  12. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    I can't take credit for that. Those are the seller's pics. Yeah, they are really good. Hopefully they send the coin in the pictures! Stellar feedback on Ebay. So ......
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You'll have to watch for the bait and switch.
     
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  14. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't think the 2 cent pieces are usually counterfeited. And what damage are you seeing beyond the rim bump?
     
  15. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    I think the rim ding on the reverse at about 12:30 is the only problem. I disagree that it would details grade; that coin would straight grade.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You MIGHT be able to make a living doing 1872's.
     
  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Besides the rim dent between 12 and 1 o'clock on the reverse, there appears to be a spot of verdigre inside the wheat stalk across from the M. If it's a gummy substance that should acetone out.
     
  18. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    The lines in the shield appear to have been smashed a bit - actually quite a bit, but you have to look close. The resolution is sufficient to load it into another tab and zoom in. The seller does indeed take great pictures.
     
  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The lines in the shield appear to have some wear. I see a couple of incredibly minor marks from circulation. Absolutely nothing unusual there.
     
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  20. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    Only problem you could run into is if the dealer used a stock photo to show type then sent you a lower grade coin. Not to say he will but it does happen.
     
  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    ^^^^ See post #12.
     
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