Clad layer missing?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Seattlite86, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Okay guys, let me down easy if I'm wrong. I'm not anywhere that I can weigh this, but I've taken a few photos. I think this is a dime missing much of its clad layer. I would love to know your thoughts.

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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Since I seem to see something on the edge, I lean towards environmental damage.
     
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  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You'll have to weigh it.
    Offhand I agree with Kentucky. It's usually only missing a layer on one side.
    This is 1 and a half.
     
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  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    fair, but it is only definitively on the edge where the clad is on the reverse of the dime. It's not clearly all the way around. I need to dip this in acetone to try to clear it up.
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Can't check that for at least a day. I'll definitely get that soon though.
     
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  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Worth a try.
     
  8. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    If not, you still have a rarer dime with a misaligned die, obverse and reverse.
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I'v seen this before on dimes and nickels also...somewhere around here there's a dime with a large pea size spot copper color on the reverse. I'v also seen nickels with copper colored blotches.
     
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  10. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    so you're at maybe yes?
     
  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I'm not sure what's going on .
    Other then it was struck with a worn die .
     
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  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Weirdly enough, it weighed 2.29g. Actually more than the two dimes I weighed that registered 2.26g
     
  13. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Which could explain the missing nickel as copper is slightly denser than nickel. there are "End of the Roll" errors in which the nickel layer didn't make it all the way out to the end of the compressed sheet. Not to say this is one, but more of a theory for research.
     
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  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    It also could of been a improperly, annealed planchet .
    Or came from a bad environment too ..

    Could be a good one too send to Coneca ....
     
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  15. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Knowing that I want to be an error, I also came up with this justification. I don’t know how plausible it is.
     
  16. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I’ve never submitted to them. What are their costs in general?
     
  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    A clad dime weighs 2.268.
    Even if the 2.29 is correct, you are only 22 thousanths of a gram heavy.
    Which could be explained by a slight imbalance in the scale or sometimes oxidation will increase the weight of objects because of the added oxygen.
     
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  18. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I understand, but this just doesn't jump out to me as environmental damage or acid dip. I'm not sure what's going on with it, but I'm curious to have it seen in hand by others with more knowledge than myself.
     
  19. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    My scale is good to .001 by the way. I rounded when I gave the numbers.
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If it were missing a clad layer it would be light.
    Must be something else.
    The clad layer is copper and nickel silver, almost the same density as
    copper. Without the clad layer I think it would be 1.9 grams or so.
     
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  21. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Yes, I don't have any good explanations. It also doesn't make sense that it's partially clad. Someone would've had to dip it diagonally into acid and pull it out. I also don't understand it being heavier and I'm not sure the oxidation makes that much change. Something isn't adding up, and I also really want this to be an error.
     
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