Don't be tempted by this one . . .

I've had several back and forths with the OP and they are sticking to their guns and claim this is a genuine US Mint coin.

 

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Because yah, like U.S. coins are his main subject of expertise, right? And his return policy isn't substandard, right?

 

With everything being said so far in this thread about the coin being genuine or not, the bid is now up to $163.05. How far do you think it will go with over 3 days left?

 

There is never a shortage of bidiots. Somebody will buy it assuming it's real, find out later it's not, and gripe. Then they'll find out that U.S. law isn't useful in an international transaction, and the only recourse they have, after a LONNNNG process, is eBay's policies. There is NO coin that ordinary I'd go through that for. I've only bought coins internationally TWO ways - direct from a world mint, or when I was IN that other country. Otherwise I won't transact business internationally AT ALL.

 

$293.20

 

Not everybody outside the US is a crook. I buy/sell globally all the time and only had a single issue in the past years.

 

As long as you avoid certain parts of the world the biggest issues are usually customs delays

 

Exactly!

 

I'm allergic to inconvenience. I avoid it at all costs. The Amtrak station is 3/4 of a block away, and from there, I get to airports without needing to drive at all. So I go to major shows and it's low hassle. Local backcountry auctions are less than an hour away, and there I take the car.

 

I asked the seller about the weight and he said it was 6.25 grams. It seems like the seller has answered most of the questions when asked. I know he could not be telling the truth and then again he might be telling the truth or what he believes is the truth. I think what it comes down to is it has to be in hand, like others have said, to see for ourselves.

 

His return policy sucks and no matter what they say I still don't think it's genuine and wouldn't buy it!

 

He has 30 day returns on it. Doesn’t matter what he wrote eBay will hold him to 30 day returns and the system will automatically approve them

 

Thank you for the reply

 

Agreed. It doesn't make one iota of difference what you say in your description. When you select to accept returns, you are agreeing to eBay's returns policy for the selected time period, not what you just made up.

As far as the coin, there is no reason why I would need to buy a "U.S. coin" from anyone outside the U.S. If I'm looking for deals on G.B. coins, then I'll consider other sources.

It's over $307 U.S. right now.

 

So your point is that you are justified in saying sellers of US coins outside of the US are crooks simply because you are too afraid/lazy to buy from such sellers? Sounds like a very narrow (aka, should be thrown out) point of view.

 

I will be going to a coin show in London this coming Saturday. If it is wanted, I can report on the percentage of fakes in the US material I find.

I still find it entertaining how when the OP suggests a certain coin is fake, the vast majority of the members jump in the water as well, regardless of evidence otherwise,

 

Well, now that we're up to our eyeballs in cramming words into my mouth I never said, the unofficial official sport of CoinTalk posters, let me say what I DO mean:

1) I BARELY think buying coins on eBay under ANY circumstances (even domestically) is worth the trouble, but very occasionally, for the right coin I can't find anywhere else, I will.

2) International transactions are, for me, the "bridge too far". I just won't do them unless I'm either there, or I'm dealing with a mint directly. Under NO circumstances would I EVER buy ANYTHING from a different country on eBay. No way, no how. Just. Not. Happening.

3) On "The Spruce", the website I referenced earlier, there has been an article on how to avoid getting burned by Chinese fakes. It includes NEVER buying from international sellers who have a few coins, but it's not their main thing - JUST LIKE OUR BUDDY IN QUESTION HERE. He's more into Lesney cars than coins.

4) It doesn't matter WHICH country he's in IF he is either buying Chinese fakes, or taking material, by purchase or consignment, from somebody else who IS buying them.

5) Now, ... let's all go back through this thread and try to find EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF WHERE I SAID THIS GUY IS A CROOK!!!!!!!! I did say I think the coin is a counterfeit, and I herein say I wouldn't touch it with a 14-foot Albanian.

6) Oh by the way, the OP is not MERELY the OP. He is a MODERATOR on this site and has the implicit trust of the site's owner.

7) You're welcome.

 

Well, you quoted a statement saying that not everyone outside the US is a crook, and you blantantly showed how you avoid buying from abroad. Since you had no other substance to your post, I had to make conclusions from what I read, and so I asked a question.

What trouble? The 1% of the time the transaction turns inconvenient and eBay steps in and gives you your money back? You obviously have inflated the problem way too far in your head.

I have had hundreds of transactions from abroad. There were only three times when a fake coin was sent when advertised as genuine (two of which were high-risk medieval Chinese coins). I got my money back in every case. Your fears are unfounded.

Same as my point above. If you have any knowledge in authenticating coins, you will know that the fears are unfounded. You can simply avoid the listings that have fakes in them (which are almost always easy to spot). There are just as many fakes percentage-wise on eBay in the US as in other countries.

But if you are just buying coins and don’t really have any idea what you are doing (like many collectors), then The Spruce’s advice is completely wise.

Then don’t buy coins at all. I have seen fakes in brick and mortar stores and coin shows. Ebay is not the only contaminated coin venue. Don’t act like it is.

Again, the statement you quoted and your subsequent reply implied that you think international sellers were crooks.

Moderators are not infallible. No one is.

I never thanked you.

 

I like the way you did that. 1-7 Don't mean I agree or disagree. I just like how you did it.

 

I like the way you did that. It does not mean I agree or disagree. I just like the way you did it.