3rd Century Party!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by nicholasz219, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    Well, maybe not a party. Two guys not only wore the same stuff, but they have the same name.

    Just a few new later Roman bronzes that have arrived recently. These are additions/upgrades/mistaken duplicate. But I am happy with all three. So whatevs.

    I do not get the chance to buy much in the way of Diocletian, so this was a nice and cheap pickup.

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    Diocletian, Antoninianus IOVI CONSER AVGG
    AE Antoninianus
    Diocletian
    Augustus: 284 - 305AD
    Issued: 287 - 288AD
    22.0 x 21.0mm 4.00gr 6h
    O: IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    R: IOVI CONSER AVGG; Jupiter standing left, holding thunderbolt and scepter, eagle at feet, left.
    Exergue: A, right field.
    Lyons Mint
    RIC V Lugdunum 35, A, right; Bastien 76; Cohen 184.
    Aorta: 1371: B50, O32, R67, T93, M9.
    Victor's Imperial Coins/victor-clark: Victor Clark 282798504136
    1/13/18 1/20/18

    And recently I have been in the wastelands for Septimius Severus since I apparently bought everything in my price range in the last few months, lol. On a happy note, I won two Probus ants one of which is really nice and the other is pleasant even if a duplicate.

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    Probus, Antoninianus, CLEMENTIA TEMP
    AE Antoninianus
    Probus
    Augustus: 276 - 282AD
    Issued: 276AD
    22.0mm 2.40gr 6h
    O: IMP CM AVR PROBVS AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    R: CLEMENTIA TEMP; Probus standing right on left, holding eagle-tipped scepter, receiving globe from Jupiter, standing left on right, holding scepter.
    Exergue: ε, above line; XXI, below line.
    Antioch Mint; First Emission
    RIC V, 2 921, ε; Sear 11960.
    Aorta: 1977: B87, O25, R13, T95, M1.
    JAZ Numismatics/John Zielinski Auction 119, Lot 12.
    1/18/18 1/24/18

    I have this attributed with an Epsilon officina mark. It looks very faint but I feel that the mark above the center line is an Epsilon for sure. Which unfortunately makes this coin a duplicate for me. I thought there was no letter above the exergural line which is a variety I do not have. Oh well, I like the coin anyway.

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    Probus, Antoninianus, CLEMENTIA TEMP
    BI Antoninianus
    Probus
    Augustus: 276 - 282AD
    Issued: 276AD
    21.7mm 3.21gr 6h
    O: IMP CM AVR PROBVS AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    R: CLEMENTIA TEMP; Probus standing right on left, holding eagle-tipped scepter, receiving globe from Jupiter, standing left on right, holding scepter.
    Exergue: Δ(Dot), above line; XXI, below line.
    Antioch Mint; First Emission.
    RIC V, 2 921, Δ(Dot); Sear 11960.
    Aorta: 1987: B87, O25, R13, T95, M1.
    frascatius/Tom Mann 232626222003
    1/21/18 1/24/18

    The above coin is one of the nicest Ants I have bought and I am happy it is a Probus.

    Feel free to share all Probus, Diocletian, Tetrarchy and fancy Ants that you have!

    Collection Progress:
    Probus: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6322
    Diocletian (Yes, I know it is only four coins, give me a break.): http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6326
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    All three are nice, but the last one, which looks to have most of it's silvering intact, is my favorite. Congrats!
    Diocletian 2.jpg
    DIOCLETIAN
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: IOVI CONSER AVGG, Jupiter naked,standing facing, looking right,holding thunderbolt & sceptre eagle at foot with wreath in beak, XXIA in ex.
    Struck at Rome 292 AD
    2.9g, 21.5mm
    RIC V Part II 166
    Probus 3.jpg
    PROBUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP PROBVS AVG, radiate mantled bust left holding eagle-tipped sceptre
    REVERSE: SOLI INVICTO, Sol in galloping quadriga left, R-thunderbolt-B in ex.
    Struck at Rome, 275-6 AD
    4.2g, 24mm
    RIC 202
     
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  4. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    Those are vey nice coins @Bing!

    I have to upgrade my Probus chariot myself. Yours is great!
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thank you.
     
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  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Some nice coins!
     
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ditto, though the patina on the second one is nice, too.
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    @Bing- that quadriga is terrific. I'm not much into LRBs, but I like that one. Such a nice broad flan, too.
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thanks. I'm not much into third centry coins, but when a nice one pops up, well, a nice coin is a nice coin no matter when it was struck.
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    DIOCLETIAN:
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    RI Diocletian Ӕ Quinarius 1.46g 16mm Rome AD 284-305 IOVI CONSERVAT AVGG, Jupiter stndng thunderbolt sceptre RARE RIC 193

    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX.jpg
    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX


    PROBUS:

    RI Probus 276-282 CE Ant 21mm Riding Horse Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Probus 276-282 CE Ant 21mm Riding Horse

    RI Probus 276-282 CE BI Quinarius 2.80g Cohen 768.jpg
    RI Probus 276-282 CE BI Quinarius 2.80g Cohen 768
     
  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Very nice OP coins and that quadriga @Bing is a real stunner on a great flan.
     
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  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..one of my bloggers just posted "party like its 268 AD"..about Phillip l 's bash :p *248...oops..
     
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  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Some great additions, Nic.
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have serious personal conflict when i comes to silvered coins. I know they were issued that way and high grade examples should retain silver but my personal aesthetic preferences often favors coins of other colors. I am particularly displeased with high grade coins with blotchy remaining silver and would rather have them brown. That is not a high minded numismatic attitude but just the way I am.

    Diocletian with a bit of silver and red blended the way I prefer:
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    Probus with a lot more silver but not 'artistically' deployed on the reverse:
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    I would not have bought this Probus 'silver sneezer' were it not for the less common obverse legend. I would prefer the coin with no silver but we sometimes take what we find. PERPETVO IMP C PROBO P AVG
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    Probus looks good in green, too.
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    ...as does Diocletian. Very few silvered coins develop really nice green surfaces so I suspect the silver content retards patina development. This speckled surface coin is as good green as I have for Diocletian.
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  16. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    @Alegandron and @dougsmit Very nice Coins, both. @Alegandron U don’t have any quinarii much less of Diocletian or Probus. Those are exciting to see.

    @dougsmit I do not have a Perpetuo obverse which saddens me after seeing yours. As does your Concordia Militvm. Especially with the exergue mintmark combination there.

    As far as silvered coins go, I am conflicted as well. I would much rather buy a fully silvered or fully
    bronze coin. The in between examples really annoy me on some level so I tend to avoid them. The fully silvered coins typically quickly exit my buying price range so only when I find nice coins in that range do I bother to try and buy them. It’s part of the hunt I guess.
     
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