Snake Biga

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  1. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    And here's a lesser version of that drachm, although the wear is nicely even and it still has great appeal to me :). Same year, bust left.

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius
    year 14, CE 150/1
    AE drachm, 34 mm, 28.8 gm
    Obv: Laureate bust of Antoninus Pius left
    Rev: Triptolemos driving biga of winged serpents right; L IΔ above
    Ref: Emmett 1683.14

    Since we've broken out Triptolemos, here's another although some imagination is required to see the snake-drawn chariot. It looks more like a winged wheelchair o_O

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    ATTICA, Athens. Eleusis mint
    Eleusinian festival coinage
    340-335 BC
    AE16
    Obv: Triptolemos, seated left in a winged chariot drawn by two snakes
    Rev: Pig standing right on mystic staff, (bucranium below?)
    Ref: SNG Cop 415

    From CNG's archives:
    The obverse is inspired by a statue of Triptolemos that was presumably still in its temple when Pausanias (I. 38, 6) visited Eleusis in about AD 160: “The Eleusians have a temple to Triptolemos... They say that the plain called Rharion was the first to be sown and the first to grow crops... Here is shown a threshing floor and altar. My dream forbade the description of the things within the wall of the sanctuary, and the uninitiated are of course not permitted to learn that which they are prevented from seeing.”
     
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  3. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Who is the emperor on that one @stevex6?
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Antonius Pivs
     
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  5. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bing!
     
  6. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Late to the party, as usual. Love that biga of snakes. When I was collecting Roman Republic I used to have a Volteius snake biga denarius, but had to sell it along with most of my other RR in the early 90s. Never went back, but did hold on to a few. I had a particular thing for the bigati and two of the three I kept haven't shown up here yet.

    Biga of stags:
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    Anonymous in 143BC. Diana driving biga of stags above a crescent moon.


    Biga of goats (same old-same old):
    reni01-cng102-sm.jpg C. Renius in 138BC. Juno Caportina in biga of goats. (One more for the road.)

    And as requested,
    biga of elephants:
    cmetel01-mr100-sm.jpg C. Caecilius Metellus Caprario in 125BC. Jupiter driving biga of elephants, Victory above.
     
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  7. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    Great coin Bing!

    I have to say thatI didnt even know such a coin existed.
    Also, of all the snake bigas shown on this thread, I find the snakes on your coin portrayed the best
     
  8. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    @TIF
    Your coin photos are a sight for sore eyes.
    You are the master of photography
    :snaphappy: :)
     
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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thank you! I do try hard to take good photos. I basically copied how Ancient Joe does it-- same camera, similar settings, and I reproduced his nifty background template.

    Doug Smith is the real photographer here, and I've incorporated some of his tips into my setup, although I'm using a fixed-lens point-and-shoot camera (on manual mode).
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Funky Teams:

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    RR C Renius AR Denarius 18mm 3.8g Roma 138 BC Helmeted hd Roma r X - C RENI ROMA Juno driving biga goats r whip reins scepter Cr 231-1

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    RR Allius Bala 92 BCE AR Den Diana Biga Stags Sear 221 Craw336-1

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    Seleucid Seleucus I 312-280 BCE AR Tet 14.46g Seleucia on Tigris. Zeus - Athena driving a quadriga of 4 horned elephants SC 130
     
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  11. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian Drachm 134-35 AD Poseidon in hippocamp biga
    Reference.
    RPC III, 6020 (this coin illustrated). Dattari-Savio Pl. 89, 7759 (this coin); Emmett 1023 (triton biga)

    Issue L ƐΝΝƐΑΚ·Δ or L ΙΘ = year 19

    Obv. ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙС ΤΡΑΙΑΝ - ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟС СƐΒ
    Laureate draped and cuirassed bust of Hadrian, r., seen from rear

    Rev. L ƐΝΝƐΑΚ·Δ
    Poseidon in hippocamp biga, r.raising hand and holding trident

    23.35 gr
    32 mm
    12h
    From the Dattari collection.

    Poseidon was the Olympian god of the ocean, earthquakes and horses. His father Kronos swallowed him whole when he was born, later Zeus with the help of Metis managed to set him free. During the Titanomachy, the Cyclopes forged a unique trident for Poseidon, and together with his brothers they defeated the Titans and threw them into the Tartaros. The god is well known for his famous attributes such as the Trident, sometimes he also used to carry around a rock with sea creatures on it, and he is pictured on pottery with a wreath of celery leaves. His sacred animals are the dolphin, the bull and the horses. However he is also associated with animals such as the hippocampus, in fact, his chariot was driven by seahorses.

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  12. Daniel_R6

    Daniel_R6 Well-Known Member

    Glad this thread was bumped, some lovely coins shared.
     
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  13. finny

    finny Well-Known Member

    My latest addition - I've joined the snake biga club :)

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  14. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    A truly wonderful example. This is another Republican coin I've wanted for a long time (like the T. Carisius with a sphinx reverse). Almost every one I've seen, though, is missing Ceres's head, or one or both of the snakes.
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    No Fair! You found a great snake biga with the bonus scorpion option.

    Someone here got my Carisius Sphinx when I was in an anti-Republican, anti-low grade bad mood. I might have been well advised to save it until I found a better one but I was in a condition snob phase. My record keeping could be faulty but is shows I took a financial loss on the coin but could pretend I was a big dog. There was I time I was buying any RR that I did not have if it was cheap enough. At other times, I regretted that period. I hope it is now in a happy home. I have two kinds of coins in my collection that 'bother' me. First are coins I regret paying too much for and second are coins I paid too little for and got even less than I paid. The late Don Zauche sold this for $30. I believe that is about right for what it was. I look forward to the resumption of shows to see if someone brings a $130 example ($330?). There are a lot of them out there.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Search.asp..._TYPE_ID=2&VIEW_TYPE=0&MAX_COUNT=10000&PAGE=1
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  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow, Oki-- fantastic type!

    This thread is a few years old and I did finally get one of the Volteius Ceres snake biga coins a while back. Since this thread has been resurrected I'll drop it in the thread. The serpent heads look like chickens or ducks. Anguiped geese? :D

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  17. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Beautiful!
     
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  18. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I've posted this coin before, as it is the only example showing this unusual mode of transportation.

    D-Camera Athens new style tetradrachm, 113-112 BC 16.91 grms,,  8-23-20.jpg

    Also, here's a biga drawn by a mule, a tetradrachm from Messana, ca. 410-405 BC:

    D-Camera Messana Tetradrachm,  480-461 BC, Roma Sale 55  6-6-20.jpg

    You'd probably not break the land speed record in one of these....
     
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  19. NewStyleKing

    NewStyleKing Beware of Greeks bearing wreaths

    My Triptolemos.
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    Athens New Style Tetradrachm c 113/2 BC
    Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet
    29mm 16.73 gm Thompson issue 52
    Thompson catalogue : Obs 680 : Rev NEW
    Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic
    Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora
    on which month mark M control ME below
    3 magistrates : EUMAREIDES KLEOMEN PYRRI
    RF symbol : Triptolemos in biga pulled by snakes
    All within a surrounding olive wreath
     
  20. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    ElagabalusNicoTriptolemos.jpg
    Elagabalus. 218-222 AD. Nicopolis, Moesia Inferior. Æ (28mm, 14.20 gm, 12h). Novius Rufus, legatus consularis. Obv: Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right. Rev: Triptolemos in chariot drawn right by two winged serpents. H&J 8.26.23.3; AMNG I 1906; Varbanov 3911.
     
  21. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Another interesting winged serpent coin:
    CaracallaHadrianopolisTriptolemos.jpg
    Caracalla. 198-217 AD. THRACE, Hadrianopolis. Æ (27mm, 11.95 gm, 6h). Obv: Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust left with shield and spear. Rev: Triptolemos in flying winged-serpent drawn biga, raising right hand to spread seed from bag he holds in left; below, Gaia, holding two ears of grain, reclines left and holds up fold of garment to receive the seed. Varbanov 3589-3593.
    Writes a major numismatic firm: "Triptolemos was the 'Johnny Appleseed' of the ancient Greeks; a god who gave man agriculture, by spreading seeds from a bag he carried in his flying biga. This reverse is an allegory of the function he performed by sowing Gaia, the earth goddess, with the seeds necessary for vegetation to exist."
     
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