1969 S penny - your thoughts?

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  1. Elycemarie

    Elycemarie New Member

    may I ask what you all think of this one? Sorry for the quality of the photo. Is this caused from grease, or machine doubling, or something else? Thank you for your input in advance;)
     

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  3. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Not sure, am I seeing a filled top loop of the S? And maybe a 1 that’s a little weak? The weak 1 could be a weak striking or a grease filled Die. Its easier If you tell us what you think the problem is first. Hope I got it right! Lol.
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    Reed.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I will say DDD - Die Deterioration Doubling
     
  5. Elycemarie

    Elycemarie New Member

    Thank you for your reply;) I was thinking it’s die deterioration? Here is a pic of the entire penny...
     

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  6. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I still see a weak 1 and a filled S top loop and shadows. It would have been nice to have the entire
    Image to start with. Both Obverse and Reverse in focus and properly oriented. Hope this helps. Reed.
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  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I am not seeing what you're seeing. It may be a repunched mintmark, and there are tons of wacky 1969-S mintmarks out there. A trip through 50 of them in a roll yields bunches of "What the ... ?" moments.
     
  8. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Your right Kurt I didn’t think of that S as being anything but filled but with the blurry image it it could be just that an RPM.
    Glad your still on CT Buddy.
    Reed.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Don't count on it. Jim is trying to get me banned. We have NEVER seen eye-to-eye on ANY issue, and likely never will. He and I make "oil and water" look like best buds.

    On the coin, I almost believe that the 1969 experience might have led the Mint to look into what became the end of of the punched mintmark era, and the move to mintmarks on the hub.
     
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  10. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I have my fingers crossed they won’t boot ya Kurt.
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Their call. If it were "HIS" call personally and exclusively, I'd already be gone. I have ZERO doubt.
     
  12. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Yess I agree that was one of the major dates for those problems and it’s a natural to see the hubs with dates come after this problem laden date run of cents.
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Ya' know, ... , 1970 was no bargain either.
     
  14. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Yeah I hate it when someone doesn’t like you just because they don’t agree with some thing or other.
    It’s worse when that some one has power. I’m just waiting for my scolding for that fun we had earlier
    Reed
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    OH GREAT! Just that picture has me looking for a Tylenol. Thanks. My left hand is still fairly limber, and I know that pic is Photoshopped, but the spasticity in my right hand from the stroke has me wondering if that pic and my hand are even slightly similar apparatus. It's why my typing stinks and I need to re-edit. But I REFUSE to go to voice. I had to work at therapy for over a year to get my diction back to the status quo ante after the stroke so Siri wouldn't fail so often. Now I speak to my smart home devices in an exaggerated NPR radio announcer voice, just to be sure I'm understood by the tech. I can't IMAGINE the hassle of speech-to-text. I'd rather type with two sticks.
     
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  16. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I have a little arthritis problem with that hand. Lol.
     
  17. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Why? I don't understand. I see you as a valuable member with lots of knowledge. I wish I could have met you at the Denver ANA coin show in August.
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It's simple. I have a big mouth and I challenge authority. I always have been, and I always will be, that way. It's not just here, either. I have challenged and gotten up in the grille of municipal police officers, too. I've been threatened with arrest more than once (10-15 times) but have never BEEN arrested, but I've gotten three different cops fired. I have zero tolerance for the "Barney Fife" type of personality, and I can be a litigious little imp.

    This is what comes from working next to one of the Commonwealth's most distinguished appellate attorneys for years (also a cool numismatist, BTW), and the Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court and I are on a first-name basis, IF he's not in the robes. When the Governor and I pass in the halls, I nod approvingly, but I neither sweat nor genuflect.

    Many, many people don't LIKE my type of personality (I'm gimpy, not blind, and those who don't care for it include two ex-wives), but you know what? I. Don't. Care. I'm comfortable in my own skin.
     
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  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You don't get banned from this site because of Jim, Doug or Peter. You get banned because of your own actions. The rules are clear on this site. If you don't follow the rules and you act like an idiot, yes you get banned.
     
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  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I keep reading that, and I agree. What is NOT clear is how the definitions of those words are applied. In legal parlance, my challenges are not "facial", they are "as applied", and I believe Doug allows excessive deference to his mods to interpret beyond reasonableness.
     
  21. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I disagree the rules are not clear. If the rules can be changed at the discretion of the moderator then that rule IS NOT CLEAR as it is change from the original written rule. VERY CONFUSING IN MY BOOK.
    NOT CLEAR AT ALL
     
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