What's the difference?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Kerra, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Nobody does. It would help to know. Op! Found it! I wondered how long that would sit there.
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    There IS a certain "value" to me in having had these kinda bad experiences with newbs about their attempts at error finding. It has NOTHING to offer me about numismatics per se, but it IS helping me crystalize what my particular beef with the internet generally is. It's a widespread cultural objection that I've heretofore been having trouble being sufficiently specific about. I'm zeroing in on it through these very tense interactions.

    Look, I know that one generation finding objections over how the next operates is a subject as old as time itself, but this just feels more fundamentally dangerous and insidious to me. At the very same INSTANT the Internet is becoming more inscrutable in terms of being able to divide truth from fiction, we simultaneously have an entire generation seemingly wanting to trust it more and more.

    That can't possibly be sustainable, can it? I mean, the so-called "democratization" of media just means any buffoon gets the same access as people who know what they're talking about.

    No one will need to "kill off" the Internet. It will commit suicide by erasing its usefulness by willingly allowing its signal-to-noise ratio to drop to zero.
     
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  4. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Thank you I did not know that note made, won’t happen again.
    Reed
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ditto
     
  6. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    We hope you have patience to join us, as newBs are an important part of this site, and I'm certain that Doug would not subjectively correct you.

    I've "earned" a few corrective statements from Doug, but I understand him as a believingly fair individual, maybe correcting in a less educated area (or maybe mine). I consider him to probably generally be the most Numismatic learned individual on this site. As great an objective prolific factual contributor/poster as any I've viewed.

    I know that many others who've patiently read some of these copious posts seemingly devoid of germane information, would have liked to've posted Dougs statement. Considering same to have been "earned".

    Please stay with us to help educate your peers, which we'll appreciate, as some of us may have forgotten the initial learning.

    JMHO
     
  7. This is what I worried about as a new member here. I have a million questions and see things that I think are errors or at least make me curious. But I don't have a buddy coin collector I can pester for info. Or the money to pay someone to tell me I was wrong and here is my bag of run-o-the-mint pennies back. I'm already catching looks from the old lady for the time I'm spending staring at nothing.

    I try to check things online. And am slowly educating myself on the terminology. Clash scratch chip oil ccw of 5 degrees at 12 o'clock. It can be a lot to digest. It has definitely grabbed my interest though.

    I'm also looking at every coin I get my hands on and when I see something that looks off to me I try and look up that year mint ECT for errors. I try to check for die markers and I've thought I had several coins that lined up. Then I snap pics and cross reference those with examples and think I've got a match so I post it online to check with experts such as yourselves in a forum I thought was meant for such things. Probably at least a few hours of examining goes into each post

    And someone replies "no"

    Or can be a bit insulting at times. So when there is no explanation or I'm worried they just haven't seen what I'm trying to ask about I ask questions and maybe try and post a pic from a different angle. I think it has come off as argumentative at times but really I'm hoping someone has the time to maybe explain it to me so I can learn. I'm searching for some sort of clarity as to why I'm wrong. I also have no idea who anyone is. As was mentioned earlier in this thread the net can be a double edged sword. Just because someone replies doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. I don't mean to disrespect anyone's knowledge of the hobby but my ignorance also extends to who you are and whether your answer can be trusted.

    Is there a better place for newbs to post questions? I understand my own lack of knowledge added to the masses can get frustrating and wonder if "error coins" is the right spot to post my inquiries
     
  8. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Don't get scared away. You'll quickly learn which members give the best advice. Always remember that everyone has an opinion and not take negative responses personally.
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Nah, you're good. Chalk my attitude up to being late with my meds. Besides, based MERELY on your demonstrated coin photography skills, you're ALREADY okay in my book. Most people have NO IDEA how much more pleasant dealing with questions can be when the questioner gives us something we can SEE!!
     
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  10. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I think we're probably about the same age and at the time in our lives where we can start comparing meds:)
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    8 scrip, 1 prescribed OTC supplement. You?
     
  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    "Seeker"? Do be aware that the "yield rate" of true finds is quite low. They're called "rarities" for a reason.
     
  13. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    You win!!! Only 1 for me.
     
  14. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    3 of 'em just for high BP. All cheap, cheap.
     
  15. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Just the fact that you took the time to craft a response with proper spelling and punctuation means your okay with me. I’ll give you any thing I know always just think about the question first and know what your asking for.
    I get to spouting off sometimes. Just like Kurt the timing of my meds is important! Lol.
    Sincerely
    Reed.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    And try to think about how each question may build a knowledge base that will soon have you being a question ANSWERER. Whoa, head rush!
     
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  17. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Funny how knowledge works.

    Always best when shared with others
     
  18. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I believe you definitely wouldn't understand the relative perspective/familiarity differences of the sexes. An explanation seemingly would be futile with your condescending attitude. (e.g. "Proof that there is such a thing as a stupid question." - CoinCorgi Post #5 relating to a female NewB inquiry)

    JMHO
     
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    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

  20. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Derp, derp, derp!
     
  21. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I answer "no" when my opinion has already been stated by other members.

    Many newcomers are so very reluctant to accept experts opinion that I add my "no" or "yes" as further weight to those opinions.
     
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