Authentic or Fake Ancient

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  1. Kentucky

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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    In the larger sense, since time may not even be real, what's the difference, right? :confused:
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Authentic IMHO
     
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  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Fake IMHO. I don't like the raised round pimples.
     
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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Looks to me to be authentic. Some of what is visible on the coin could be due to worn dies, not a perfect strike. Secondly, I am not sure that many folks would go to the trouble to produce a fake of this example.
     
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    interesting coin..the obverse looks totally legit.. but the reverse....idk...
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I know, that is what bothered me. I have seen "line" renderings like this, but not often.
     
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  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Stylistically, it looks fine to me. I assume that there is no seam along the edge of the coin. If there is . . . Ding! Ding! Ding! Ah-ROOOO-gah!
     
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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I see no reason to doubt it.
     
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  11. Kentucky

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    It's just that there are so many finely engraved Roman coins that the reverse looks weird.
     
  12. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I suppose if you're looking for something to be concerned about, one might expect more wear on the reverse given the fact that Max's hair has been all but rubbed away. But from the photo alone, I can't really ding it. Here's mine. He looks pretty cheery for a guy about to take a dive off the Milvian Bridge.

    MAXENTIUS CONSERVATOR 1.jpeg
     
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  13. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I think it is authentic. Wear can't explain the obverse, but a very worn obverse die can. At 3:30 on the OP coin there is the beginning of a die break (where metal connects the A and the G). I think the die was so worn that it broke soon after producing that coin.

    Freshness of die is not on everyone's radar. Wear on the coin sometimes looks like the effect of wear on the die. But, to have great detail on the coin it needs to be on the die, so the die needs to be fresh. An unworn coin from a fresh, well-engraved die can be special.
    MaxentiusCONSERVVRBSSVAE800.jpg
    Maxentius 306-312
    Glossy charcoal gray.
    RIC Rome 210, page 378 struck "308-310"
     
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  14. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    I don’t know, but it’d likely be much easier to tell in hand. Are the letters bleeding together (A and V) and into the edge on the right hand side of the obverse of concern? I’ve read about that being a sign of casting in earlier bronzes, but I’m not sure about these later issues. The style looks normal.
     
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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    It does look a bit unusual but I'm leaning towards genuine.....
     
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  16. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I would buy it as genuine it it was put in front of me.
     
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  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    I'd say it's the real McCoy, after looking at the others like it.
     
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