Does PCGS slab coin webbing?

I have a section of 1943 steel cent coin webbing. Anyone know or have examples of grading companies slabbing a few inches of coin webbing?

 

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i doubt it, but do you have any pics, and what it was used for?

 

Webbing is the leftovers of a sheet of metal that the coin blanks were punched from.

 

I've seen it in some slabs, but I honestly can't remember which one. It was definitely one of the top three - ANACS, NGC or PCGS.

Maybe @paddyman98 or @Fred Weinberg would know.

Chris

 

If it fits in their slab I think they will, if it's to big though not sure they would make a custom one for it

 

I've seen it before there called bow ties.

 

I don't know about a few inches but mainly the bowties..
I created a thread on the subject of webbing recently -
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/we...paddyman98-what-are-you-talking-about.307061/

 

Here is a new picture I took this morning of my Bowties.. My wife awoke and saw what I was doing. She laughed and called me weird

 

Isn't it odd that they are slabbed as "mint error"? I mean, what's the error?

 

Great question..
This might be the answer - When the Blanks are puched out what is left is webbing. The scrap webbing is then cut into smaller pieces and sent away. The bowtie is a different item where it was actually cut out from the sheet intended to be a Blank but was mis-cut. In other words.. The Bowtie should of been a full Blank but it ended up in the Blank bin and probably ended up inside Mint sewn bags to be found. In the picture I just provided you can see a Bowtie on top of a US Quarter. Same size as the Quarter.
So this could be why a Bowtie would be considered a Mint Error.

 

Interesting. In that scenario the 4 "corners" of the bowtie should have a slightly concave shape and seamlessly follow the countour of the quarter, but that does not appear to be the case with any of the ones in the photo above. They look like they are mostly straight cuts, which you wouldn't expect to see from a circular punch.

 

I assume that since the Blank is then made into a Planchet with a Upraised Rim then that changes the appearance.
The blank bowtie is not turned into a Planchet.

 

What I mean is, the tool used to punch the blanks is circular, so all parts of the edge of the cutout piece where the punch tool made contact with and cut through the metal would have to follow that circular/convex shape. Think curved clip vs. straight clip. A circular punch cannot create a straight cut.

Perhaps this can be used to distinguish bowties accidentally punched due to shifting metal from those purposely cut up by the mint.

 

Yes perhaps

It's one of those things where I guess you need to actually see it occurring in order to get the correct answer. I read an article once that explained it much better. I will search for it.

 

You're right, probably need to see the physics in action. Would be interested in reading up on that as well

 

I have seen a piece of 1943 cent webbing at an ANA show. It was about a 8-inch or so long piece with all the blanks cut out. It wasn't a small "bowtie"; it was a continuous webbing that I'd guesstimate at about 4 inches by eight inches, maybe a bit larger. Touches of rust inside the holes, and nice continuous zinc on the surface.

 

Thank you. I also noticed my 1943 steel cents do not for in the webbing holes for the steel cent webbing. Shouldn't the stamped coins fot in there? Now I think the planchet isn't for steel cents despite being steel.

 

Sorry. I meant to say they don't fit

 

No, the act of striking slightly enlarges the coin, even steel ones.

 

Ahhhhh. Thank you so much. If I ever meet you in person I will buy you either a coffee or a beer depending on the time of day