My Secret Saturnalia Santa Unveiled

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Deacon Ray, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Naw, just a reglar ol dude! But thank you for the kind comment!
     
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  4. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    LaCointessa, thanks for being a great influence!:D

    I bought this from Warren last night with the money my bro gave me for Christmas:cool::

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    Warren's pic.

    Erin
     
  5. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Excellent, Erin!
    Now there is a little group of you who have it! Enjoy!
     
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  6. LaCointessa

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    Hi again, @erin,

    I was rushing and did not have time to tell you that I had seen your coin as I was looking for other examples of the coin. When I finished looking, I thought the one you have was beautiful and the only other great specimen I could find on the Internet. I noted the attribution, in case you want it. I have included it below. I suppose it will come with the coin, but I thought you might like to have it now. Your coin is one of those attributed as depicting the nymph 'struggling' with the serpent.

    I am pleased that you like the coin enough to purchase it for your collection and that you grabbed this very nice one.

    I trust you are loving your new place!?
    Have a great New Year!
    Sincerely,

    PISIDIA, Etenna. 1st century BC. Æ .

    PISIDIA ETENNA 1st BC Æ 1.5 GR & 12,44 MM
    Nymph advancing right, struggling with serpent / E–T flanking sickle-shaped knife. SNG France 1537.
     
  7. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Thanks so much, LaCointessa! I really appreciate your efforts!

    I am really enjoying being on my own, a lot more than I thought I would. I had a lot of doubts going forward, but they soon faded. I definitely don't miss my bro's ketchup addiction (one of my chores was doing the dishes and he often would leave either a blob of ketchup on the plate or smear it over like 2/3 because he loves me). :vomit:

    I do get lonely, though. I don't have many friends, so it's mostly me, my cat Bear and the lizards. Bear does like to talk, especially at 4 in the morning. :grumpy:

    Erin
     
  8. Deacon Ray

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  9. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    @Deacon Ray

    Totally stupid question that shows my lack of knowledge (I'm working on it). Is this coin representing the Pisidia visited by the Apostle Paul?

    Thanks!

    Erin
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great choice! That’s a really beautiful example.
     
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  11. dougsmit

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    I had a version of that question as well so looked it up. Pisidia is a region or 'state'. The main city was Antioch but because there were several cities named Antioch we see this one called 'Pisidian Antioch' which was mentioned specifically in the Bible as a place in which Paul preached. Antioch on the Orontes, also called Syrian Antioch, was an even more significant city and is were most people mean when they just say 'Antioch'. Several Roman emperors had Imperial mints there but the Pisidian coins during the empire are colonial/provincial for local use. Etenna was a lesser city in Pisidia. I don't believe it was mentioned in the Bible (correct?). This link says that they are not certain exactly where the city was but the best guess is based on where they have found many coins of the city.
     
  12. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Thanks Doug, that's what I thought.

    I don't remember Etenna being mentioned in the Bible, but Deacon Ray would be able to answer that better than I can.

    Erin
     
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  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Did someone say Pisidia Snake/Nymph?!

    The first time I laid eyes on one of these I bought it immediately!

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    Pisidia, Etenna. 1st century AD.

    Obv.: Nymph grappling with snake, amphora in left field. Rev.: E-T, sickle-shaped knife. 19 mm, 3.5 g. Hans von Aulock, Pisidiens, 522
     
  14. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I wondered if what is depicted on the coin has anything to do with the ”struggle” between Eve and the serpent in the Garden of Eden. Apparently, from what I can find to read on the coin, it has nothing to do with that.
     
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  15. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I was hoping to see your coin posted here @chrsmat71 . Your coin has a luscious almost completely phthalo blue patina! I had not seen that yet in a coin. Thanks for showing us your nymph and serpent.

    You have one of the front facing nymphs with the crossed legs (showing she is relaxed or something?) Why does it appear to me that there are two snakes? That would be one extremely long snake depicted there if it were just one, no? Same thing on @Zumbly’s coin.

    “Grappling with snake” (similar to struggling, but I do not see she is even touching the snake.)

    (Happy New Year and thanks again for the Salus!)
     
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  16. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    That's a really interesting thought!

    It may not be directly related to the purpose of the image on the coin, but I really appreciate your thought.

    Thanks!

    Erin
     
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