PCGS Overpriced vs NGC

I wouldn't after the other statements. Of course it'll be the oh I wrote upper instead of lower excuse though

 

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MOST of the variance you report on "details" vs. "straight" grades might be a 2-1 vote one way, and then with a different panel, a 2-1 vote the other way.

 

The number of SUBMISSIONS (by which I mean orders or forms) is fairly small, but the number of coins involved is substantial.

 

Exactly this. People seem to have this idea that they can randomly pick up anything from the US mint and have a good shot at a 70 because of the populations but are unaware of the reasons why the percentage is so high in those

 

No, they can't, but it IS slowly getting easier in the last 2-3 years. That's just good QA.

 

PART of the grade. Shouldn’t add 2+ points. I don’t want a technical 62 in a 64+ holder because it has nice colors. That’s why I prefer ngc, more accurate grades.

 

Most money does not equal most informed...

 

Nothing but your opinions. Maybe your grading needs work

 

Right. Because your opinions are widely accepted as fact.
Do you prefer blue or red?

 

Color does add points. I sent a typical MS63 half in that had multi-colored toning from being in a cardboard holder. Yup, MS65.

 

Were you either criticizing or surprised that eye appeal (yes color is eye appeal) is part of the grade? Either way that would suggest you could benefit from education about grading.

 

LOL! It undeniably is "eye". "Appeal" is another matter.

 

Fully aware, almighty one.

 

Lol very true not everyone likes that look

 

Me i prefer pcgs holders as I like the look the fact they stack well and they seem far more liquid to sell. I feel pcgs plays more games especially with bs details and intentionally napalms some coins each submission in order to get more grading fees. I also feel they’re more conservative. Though I see them pass a lot of problem coins in straight holders. I can say the same with ngc they’re super tough on some things such as any kind of scratch while pcgs will usually straight grade a toned over old scratch that’s not severe. And I just don’t usually see or understand ngc with the wheel mark designation. I see many overgraded ngc coins that got a color bump. I had a stunning toned Morgan that was a 64. No way it was a 64. A solid 63 all day. Another nice toned barber dime that was a nice au 55 that came back 62 I like the star designation though. So many coins are so maxed out from repeated resubmissions. I like the oldholders and This is why I like cac. It gives a second opinion and for the most part points out the coins that are strong for the grade eye appealing and original and problem free. When you buy a cac coin you know it’s decent and why I always can sell them readily and for a sometimes significant premium.

 

I have a similar 1916 Walker in an ANACS 63 holder that, "you would even say it glows"... sorry, I couldn't pass on the Christmas theme. I have had 64s in NGC holders that can't match it. It is 95% brilliant. I might send it in and leave it in the ring. Nice idea to let them know they are being "watched".

 

Just so you know, that experiment went on almost a year ago. It went to NGC, with the ICG translucent insert still around the coin. NGC exactly matched the ICG (fairly old) grade - MS63. On a 1916-S Walker. I then SHOWED it to ICG at a later show, and he said it should be a 64. So there's that. It was a very clean coin mark-wise, but the luster would never be confused with some of those 1945 monsters out there.

 

And it was a silver-plated medal at that. Talk about putting China on the "Axis of Evil" list, then making the type of medal they put out with your logo. I don't know who made them, but I wouldn't doubt that they came from the Red Menace.

 

Thanks. I don't look at the dates of threads. I just see someone has posted on one and follow it through.

 

Mine has really intense luster for the early type with the original background. I'll have to post a pic.