10th Anniversary Platinum Eagle Set.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by alhas, Nov 10, 2007.

  1. alhas

    alhas Senior Member

    :smileHere is some information currently available on the 10th Anniversary APE set:

    - Set available for sale on December 13, 2007
    - Set of 2-coins: 1/2 oz. Reverse Proof + 1/2 oz. Proof
    - Sale price about: $1,900+ based upon the current 1/2 oz. APE Proof
    - Limit of 1-set per household
    - Approximate mintage: 30K!

    Please add any updates or revisions available to the above.
     
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  3. kidkayt

    kidkayt Senior Member

    30K is way too high . . . We'll have to see the presentation in the Mint webpages and think about it.
     
  4. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    That would make it over $400 above spot price with a much to high mintage. My poor dollars just do not seem to go as far as they use to. If these figures hold true, I am afraid it will be to expensive and to common for my taste.
     
  5. vwap

    vwap New Member

    Do you have a source for this info?
     
  6. alhas

    alhas Senior Member

    Source: US Mint, Office of Public Affairs.
     
  7. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    The ASE 20th anniversary set with the reverse proof had a mintage of 250K and it has increased in value approximatley 400% even after a decrease in its selling price. Why would 30K be too many for the APE?
     
  8. paland

    paland New Member

    I think he's just kidding. With the emminent collapse of the dollar that is currently underway, paying $1900 in fiat paper money or electronic cash will be dirt cheap. About an hours worth of wages or a loaf of bread, at least here in the US with it's current Weimer Republic inflation.
     
  9. Aberlight

    Aberlight New Member

    Is there a link for this or did you talk to someone at the mint?
     
  10. shortstack

    shortstack Senior Member

    The maximum mintages for 1/2 oz Platinum Eagles were in 1998/1999 at 32K+. Those were bullion issues, not proofs. Outside of those two years the average is <20K 1/2 oz bullion APE's per year. Proof 1/2 oz APE mintages started at 15.4K in 1997 and have dropped to <10K per year since 2001.

    Minting 30K of the Reverse Proof APE's would make it the 3rd most common 1/2 oz APE.
     
  11. Car10

    Car10 Senior Member

    IMO, if it sells out the secondary market will be the place to get this one. The Ebay resellers will take a beating this time.
     
  12. kidkayt

    kidkayt Senior Member

    I would have to agree with Car10, since the mintage is so high, it may be better to get
    "graded" sets, and pay the slightly higher premium.

    One could always just hope that the set one is allowed, and gets from the mint, is a min of 69 for both coins.
     
  13. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I'm not so sure he's kidding. Some people thought the mintage should be limited to 5,000 or 10,000. I've never understood why some coins that have mintages of less than 1000 are readily available, while others with mintages of 1.5 million are going for hundreds to thousands of times face value.
     
  14. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    Maybe so, but that would make it more rare than just about any other type of coin. Why is 30K a big mintage for APE's, but would be considered a very small mintage for other types of coins?
     
  15. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    I was watching a movie the other day and someone said something like "Make a reverse proof platinum coin and they will come." I would be willing to bet if they do indeed make the 10th Anniversary Platinum Set, there will be substantially more collectors of platinum coins after these sets are sold out. While there may be many more collectors of silver and more collectors of gold than platinum , the reverse proof platinum will have a life of its own in my opinion.

    What a nice mini set it would be to have the first ever gold, silver and platinum reverse proof from the mint. Well off to the salt mine
     
  16. Aberlight

    Aberlight New Member

    The first few years of the platinum Eagles had a reverse proof like finish..............
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The information you need to understand this is that mintage numbers quite often have little if anything to do with a coin's value. The only thing that really matters is supply and demand.

    Also, sometimes a small mintage number will actually hold down the value of a given coin. Sound rediculous ? It isn't. The reason it isn't is very logical once you think about it. You see, in order for the value of a coin to go up there have to be a lot of people who want that coin - a lot of collectors trying to complete a set in other words. And what happens with coins with small mintage numbers is that collectors realize that not everybody will be able to have an example since the mintage is so low - the result of that is that no one, or very few collect them. That translates into low or no demand. And that means low prices.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Would you be surprised to learn that coins with total mintage numbers under 100 or even 50 most often sell for bullion value ? Well they do. And they do for the same reasons I explained in my previous post.

    And the reason that 30K is large number for the APE is that because in the last 4 years the highest mintage for the 1 oz coin is 8,000. So yes, compared to that 30,000 is a large number. Mintage numbers for all of thewn can be found - HERE

    Also, you must realize that to the vast majority of collectors the APE, AGE and ASE are nothing but hunks of bullion. They don't even consider them to be coins. So nobody, or very few want them to begin with. And if nobody wants them - prices are not going to rise except based on bullion content.
     
  19. alhas

    alhas Senior Member

    The information I posted in not at the US Mint site. I talked to some one who answered the "Office of Public Affairs" phone: (202)354-7222.
     
  20. alhas

    alhas Senior Member

    GDJMSP,

    I agree that they are a hunk of bullion and the link you provided is for the bullion mintage. I think, a better comparison would be the mintage of Proof coins.
     
  21. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    Not many people collect platinum coins, 30k is alot, doubt it will sell out There were only 10k reverse gold proofs, with more gold collectors, and resale value isn't that high..
     
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