2 Army & Navy 1863 CWT -die confirmation help

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  1. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Good Evening,

    With the Amy & Navy game today I felt I should ask today vs later. I believe I have both of these correctly attributed but wanted to see if I could get a second confirmation. Thanks for any help!

    1863 F12/297
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    1863 F206/323
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    The 206/323 has both a copper and a brass variety. While I believe mine to be the R3 it does seem to have a more distinct yellow color than the 12/297.

    Here are them side by side in a different light.
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    No assessment unless you cry uncle that Army has won......
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Oh, blast.....they're lovely. :)
     
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  5. kSigSteve

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  6. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    Here is my take on attribution.

    First token
    Obverse: Lovett Style Turban Head, 6 incluse stars in headband, 92 beads in border made it a Fuld 11 Die.
    Reverse: Standard design w/beaded border, end of top left leaf is over R, end of left sword handle is left of N, appears to be a bold even strike vs. weak and uneven, make this a Fuld Die 298.

    Second token
    Obverse: 25 stars on flag, top right star over flag at corner of flag. Agree that this is Fuld Die 206.
    Reverse: 8 berries on left, 0 acorns on right. Agree that this is Fuld Die 323.

    Edited to add: I used the Fuld 5th Edition of the Patriotic Tokens Book.

    I only have one token with the Army & Navy design, a Die 219 obverse paired with Die 320.
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    Last edited: Dec 9, 2017
  7. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Thank you for the correct die pairing and confirming the second.

    I appreciate you taking the time to help!
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    He's a lovely fellow, and an most knowledgeable one........
     
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