1965 Silver Dime?? MS66!!!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jesse Gillispie, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    It's not the slab that would be worth a lot, it's the coin. MS66 or SP66 isn't rare, and if it is a clad piece, it wouldn't have been worth-while financially to send it in for grading.
     
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  3. I will tell you the weight is 33.8 grams inside the case and allo wonder if someine else has one they can weigh with it in the PCGS holder?
     
  4. Awesome! I never thought of that. That's a really good idea I do love in the middle of nowhere and figured I would get everyone's opinion before I have to travel 3 hours one way just to see a real jeweler. Lol it's not like 3 hours but its close and will be worth it if I convince myself this is what I really think it might be.
     
  5. Well I know the case isn't the real prize but it does make it more authentic as a high grade and I'm not totally closed minded to breaking it. Actually the guy that told me too was pretty cool I just don't want to break the case just yet cause I have nothing to replace the case with and I'm scared of scratching the coin.
     
  6. I'm from Kentucky also. Are you an avid coin collector? I am looking for someone that knows what they are doing to look at this and if I did take it out of the case I would prefer someone that knows what they are doing and are experienced in opening PCGS cases.
     
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  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Weighing 1 random empty holder/Insert will not give you meaningful data. You don't know the variability of the weights. You would have to measure multiple empty holders to determine the mean and standard deviation. I'm not a statistician, but I have to play one at work occasionally.

    The difference in weight between a silver dime and clad dime is 0.23 grams. If there is a difference of 0.23 grams (less than 1%) between the weights of a typical holder (which wouldn't surprise me), then you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a clad and silver coin with any certainty.

    As Mark Twain once said, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics".
     
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I live in CA now, but we do have a few members in KY...where are you in KY BTW, I sent you a PM (personal message), click on the Inbox at the right top of the page to see it.
     
  9. Yes your right when I did all the math with the weights it kept coming out in between both a regular dime and a silver dime and my scale wasn't sensitive enough to calculate. So it was like 2.4 grams and a regular dime is around 2.3 and a silver is 2.5 my number I kept getting was 2.4.........
     
  10. Ok I'll look into that and thank you very much!
     
  11. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Pcgs changed the designation from MS to SP to reflect the fact this is a SMS coin and was never a regular business strike. But the coin had been slabbed already. Pcgs doesn't have the ability to now go change all the slab labels to reflect their new choice in designating these special issues.
     
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  12. Thank you so much! That is really helpful info for sure! Some of the best knowledge yet!
     
  13. Now I am wondering is it possible to have a copper clad dime without any copper on the edges? Would it be missing the copper core? And if so wouldn't PCGS weigh it when they were grading it and realize it was an error of some kind? Or is it just really special because it is a coin that is struck with copper and doesn't show any copper?
     
  14. I also have a silver dollar that is toning like a golden orange just like the dime I'm so interested in. Here is a pic. 15121043102052048008507.jpg
     
  15. No bud I wished I did, Thank you for your interest in this coin.
     
  16. Here is a comparison between a regular clad dime and this 1965 silver edges dime. 1512104661021335876418.jpg
     
  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Without reading the entire thread, I too believe that what is being seen is the gasket. I feel confident that the OP is looking at the gasket which holds the coin in place and believing that he's seeing a 90% Silver coin.
     
  18. Here's another in brighter light it's a regular 1975 no mint mark not the rare silver 1975. But I still put it in a package.
     

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  19. Yeah except my pics show right through the case 151210493943975682037.jpg
     
  20. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    for your info... this coin is valued on pcgs prices online at only about 15 dollars, and I don't what your purpose is in keeping this in the slab or not. You have a couple choices, and neither is bad. Right now you can presume that regardless of what it looks like to you, it is likely correctly labeled and is not the rare silver planchet. So there is no hurry in figuring out if it is wrong. That being said, you can either keep it in the slab until you get to someone who has the ability to tell in the slab or say no, or you can break the coin free and weigh it, or you can wait until you find another coin that is sms in the same type slab and weigh them and see if you can see a difference in weight. Or I am sure other ways.

    But honestly, it would have, I think, been noticed by someone in the process of slabbing if it was a silver planchet. My supposition is that it is a normal clad with no real clad layer showing on the side. I would think that might be more reasonable.
     
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  21. Thank you for your opinion I really appreciate it and I too at first thought that for about 3 months until I got a jewelers loop and took pictures and definitely no gasket blocks the view. But thank you for your input the 1965 silver dime is elusive may e it's cause they are already graded before they realized they were silver. I know it's a extremely thin chance of finding a 1965 silver dime and it's hard to believe but I need to know mainly if a clad copper dime can only show silver on the edge.
     
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