Misaligned Die Strike with a CUD?

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Would that be two rim cuds? The area above Liberty?
     
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  3. Fallguy

    Fallguy Active Member

    If there is a related die crack/break I'd also think the artifact would fall under some definition of a CUD. But I'm having a hard time finding the break, could you give me the targets coordinates, please?

    Semper Fidelis
     
  4. Fallguy

    Fallguy Active Member

    As a CONECA member for some time I definitely do not want to go head-to-head with Mr. Diamond, but relative to the nickel, I hope that the OP could give us a couple of full shots (Obv/Rev) of the nickel. What gives me pause is the apparent definition of the rim at the "M" (of UNUM) [where the artifact starts] and left, and the distance below the artifact where the definition of the rim begins to near the same level (around the tip of the right end of the roof railing on Monticello) and down. Those distances relative to the fold-over and the way the rim is compressed, spurs me to ask for a full view of the coin before reaching a conclusion. Thanks so much.

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  5. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    I can definitely provide more pictures. I'll get you some this evening once I get home.
     
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  6. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    I think that area is just PMD/ corrosion.(love those zinc coins!) I'll get a close up of that area.
     
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  7. Fallguy

    Fallguy Active Member

    Thanks so much and I'm looking forward to giving them a thorough going over!:)!:)!

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  8. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    This is only my opinion. First off I'd like to thank Mr. diamond for confirming the cud.
    Now here is the photo, it is my belief the arrows show the break in the die which is transferred to the coin itself.

    Again this is my opinion an observation. 1984 MDS Cud (3)-1-3.jpg USMC60
     
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  9. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    You know Chris for someone who projects himself in such an intelligent manner.
    That you do not know the difference between disagree and Saying someone's wrong.
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    And Chris I think you know me well enough to know if I believe you're wrong I'm gonna tell you Your wrong.

    All I know is you're not as smart as you project yourself to be.
    And it seems all you want to do is cause problems.
    USMC60 And proud of it
     
  10. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Okay. Here you go. Also some close ups of the rev around the rim.
    1976 Nickel Rim (4).jpg 1976 Nickel Rim (5).jpg 1976 Nickel Rim (6).jpg 1976 Nickel Rim (7).jpg 1976 Nickel Rim.jpg 1976 Nickel Rim (8).jpg 1976 Nickel Rim (9).jpg
     
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  11. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Cent close up by LIBERTY.
    1984 Cud.jpg 1984 Cud (2).jpg
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    To me it looks like it had a tough life being used in slot machines.
     
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  13. Fallguy

    Fallguy Active Member

    AH, now I see it! If it had been Victor Charlie, I'd of been Bagged and Tagged:(:(:(.

    Semper Fidelis
     
  14. Fallguy

    Fallguy Active Member

    Yike! That baby has been around the block a few times . . . and given that it appears there's significantly more of the rim affected, I was thinking maybe . . . some kind of erosion??? But if it was chemically induced, it would seem that you would at least see some similar effect, some place, around the rim on the Obverse. In a similar vein, I'd be hard pressed to see how it could have been mechanically caused PMD, given the relatively stable condition of the Obverse. This seems to beg for something untoward going on around the periphery of the Reverse Die . . . What, I really don't know, but I haven't given up yet so I'm thinking real hard about it. Thanks for posting the additional photos.

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