The Five Good Emperors

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by SeptimusT, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    I’m not sure if this is how this is done here, but I have been wanting to share these with someone. I bought a Marcus Aurelius denarius sometime ago, and that ballooned into building up a set of the Nerva-Antonines/Five Good Emperors (more attainable than the 12 Caesars). I just finished out the five with Nerva a week or so ago, and eventually I’ll probably add in co-emperors and wives. The affordability makes expanding the set quite attractive. But maybe I’ll take a break from denarii for a little first.

    I didn’t try to coordinate reverses, and the quality of the coins varies somewhat (the Aurelius isn’t as strong a strike as I’d like, but I didn’t know that much about denarii at the time), but overall I’m pretty proud of them. I particularly like the Trajan Arabia issue, and I am a big fan of the ragged look of the Pius.

    Nerva
    Obverse: IMP NERVA CAES AVG PM TR P COS III PP, laureate bust right
    Reverse: LIBERTAS PVBLICA, Libertas standing left, holding pileus and scepter
    17mm, 3.0g, struck at Rome in 97
    RIC 19
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    Trajan
    Obverse: IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC PM TR P, laureate, draped bust right
    Reverse: COS V PPV SPQR OPTIMO PRINC, Arabia standing left, holding a branch and bundle of cinnamon (?), camel at left
    17mm, struck at Rome in 103-111
    RIC 68
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    Hadrian
    Obverse: HADRIANVS AVG COS III PP, laureate bust right
    Reverse: FELICITAS AVG, Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopia
    17mm, 2.81g, struck at Rome in 134-138
    RIC 233
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    Antoninus Pius
    Obverse: ASNTONINVS AVG PIVS PP IMP II, laureate bust right
    Reverse: TR POT XIX COS III, Fortuna standing right, holding rudder and cornucopia
    18mm, 3.60g, struck at Rome in 155-156
    RSC 987, no RIC
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    Marcus Aurelius
    Obverse: M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG, laureate bust right
    Reverse: COS III PP, Mars standing right, holding inverted spear in right hand, left resting on shield
    16mm, 2.73g, struck at Rome in 176-180
    RIC 417
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  3. alde

    alde Always Learning

    That's a nice sub set. It wouldn't be too hard to put together a similar set in bronze. That would be a great addition.
     
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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    That's a cool group of denarii @SeptimusT ! I'm still need Nerva to get all the fab 5! I don't have much from these guys in AR, here's my "peeing victory" reverse Hadrian.


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  5. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Excellent post & coins - congratulations on a nice set. This is the only place I get to show off my coins as it seems this family are the only ones with any interest at all in my collection.

    I'm a couple shy from a set of the five. At present I have:


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    Trajan (98-117)
    Æ Orichalcum As, 24mm, 7.73g; Rome, minted 114-117 AD, possibly for use in the eastern part of the empire.
    Obv: IMP CAES NER TRAIANO OPTIMO AVG GERM - Radiate, draped bust right, seen from behind.
    Rev: DAC PARTHICO P M TR POT XX COS VI P P - Legend surrounding oak-wreath terminating in large jewel enclosing S • C.
    Ref.: RIC II 647
    Ex. Lustig Collection



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    Hadrian (117-138)
    AR Denarius, 19mm, 3.33g; Rome mint, 119-122 A.D.
    Obv.: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG - laureate bust right, drapery on left shoulder.
    Rev.: P M TR P COS III - Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopia.
    Ref.: RIC II 80

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    Antoninus Pius (138-161 AD)
    Æ Sestertius, 31.91mm, 25.5g; Rome Mint, 151/2 AD.
    Obv: ANTONINVS AVG - PIVS P P TR P XV [or XVI] - Laureate head of Antoninus Pius right.
    Rev: SA-LVS - A-VG COS IIII/ S|C - Salus standing left feeding serpent arising from altar, and leaning on staff.
    Ref.: RIC III 886 [or 906]
     
  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Neat set! I particularly like the Trajan with the less common cuirassed bust.

    Nerva
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    Trajan
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    Hadrian
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    Antoninus Pius
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    Marcus Aurelius
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  7. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    Wow, those are all some great coins. I’m jealous. And @chrsmat71, regardless of what that coin actually depicts, that’s a hilarious description.

    I must say that @dadams has some very beautiful bronzes. The Hadrian is an exceptionally nice portraits. And I’m always a big fan of Salus, so the Pius is great as well.

    @zumbly those coins all seem nicely toned, especially the Hadrian.
     
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  8. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    great set, it is not hard to find a collecting interest, the tuff part is staying focused -
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    I collect Roman Republican coins, but could not pass on the coin above.
     
  9. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Great coins @SeptimusT and this is definitely the right place to show them.

    I have 3 of the 5 good emperors at the moment. Not really a focus of mine I just liked these coins. I will eventually get around to acquiring all 5 plus Lucius Verus and Commodus at some point. For now here are mine that I think you've all probably seen already.
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  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..no problem staying focused:snaphappy:..i just change my mind:wacky:..or.. keep buying the same coins for an extended period...
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that's a nice set o coins SeptimusT and peeps post too. i haven't got any of Antonius Pius yet and i think i have a provincial Marcus Aurelius but not sure.. the only "set" i have completed and meant to so far are that of Septimius Severus and family, Flavian emperors and Alexander and his generals..that i can think of anyway.. here's my most recent of your 5.. a Hadrian dupondius i got a couple weeks ago..this is the way it came to me and i plan on doing some conserving to it..and welcome to CT ancients:) hadrian dupondius Nero As 001.JPG hadrian dupondius Nero As 002.JPG
     
  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Interesting theme. I don't have them all in denarii, but one of my focusses being the Trajan Decius Divi series, I do have them in antoniniani, struck 150 years later though ....

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    Q
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I hope everyone realizes how special Q's set of Commemotatives are. That is not an easy one.
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    After completing a 'good' set, I hope everyone will be driven to add the rest of the dynasty that was not known for being good but every bit as important to history. As part of the 'deal' for becoming emperor. Antoninus Pius had to adopt two boys. Both succeeded him as co-Augusti (a first for Rome). I believe it is wrong to omit Lucius Verus who served as equal partner to Marcus Aurelius until his death in 169. He was not a bad emperor by any means if not as extra specially good as Marcus.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Verus
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    The 'big' lesson few seem to have taken from the 'good' emperors is how well the idea of adopting a worthwhile successor worked as opposed to leaving the Empire to a natural son simply not up to the task. If Marcus had really had the best interest of Rome at heart, he could have spared us Commodus and adopted a reasonable replacement for himself. To illustrate this we need a coin of his natural and 'ungood' son Commodus.
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    Finally, Marcus' error was corrected to some degree when civil war victor Septimius Severus announced on coins that he was son of the divine Marcus. This reverse adoption could have spared us the need for the ugliness of 193 and several scarce rulers that many have trouble affording as well. The Septimius sestertius below shows the reverse legend DIVI M PII F followed by PM TRP III COS II PP. To illustrate the reverse adoption, you need to seek out a coin at least as clear as this one on the left side. That is not as easy as you might wish. It turned out that Marcus did the right thing for Rome after all - he just did it after his death. :dead:
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    If it seems to you that I am trying to push you out of the feeling you have a complete set and into buying even more addictive coins, you are most certainly correct. :troll:
     
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Showoff! :p

    Just jokes, Q, I'm totally jealous of that set :).
     
  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that's the thing about coin collecting, you may start out with a focused "goal", but end up learning much and expanding to include much more.
     
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  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Then there's the emperor who might have been, Hadrian's intended successor, Aelius, the father of Lucius Verus ...

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    Aelius, Caesar AD 136-138
    Roman orichalcum sestertius
    Rome, AD 137 Obv: L AELIVS CAESAR, bare head, right
    Rev: TR POT COS II, Spes advancing left, holding flower and raising skirt
    Refs: RIC 1055; BMCRE 1914; Cohen 56; RCV 3986; UCR 825.
     
  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Terrific thread!! I really enjoyed all the coin posts and interesting comments!!
     
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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  20. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    :p

    Q
     
  21. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I love this approach. Sometimes the sheer breadth of Roman coinage is both inspiring and daunting. For novice collectors, it’s hard to even know how to begin. Taking this targeted approach offers a good way to acquire some quality, relatively affordable coins that offer focus and narrative. Well done.
     
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