utah quarter with copper oddity on rim

I can only laugh at your understanding.

 

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Here's my copper oddity

 

There is a huge difference between questioning the status quo and insisting that a basic tenet is incorrect.

You proposed a new way to define burrs based on what you’ve observed and offered that information to the community. While there’s nothing wrong with challenging a well-established principal, you should expect to be challenged and be ready to provide the data, facts, details, and logic to prove your thesis. Pushback comes with the territory and many times you have to provide extraordinary proof and even then, it may not always be accepted.

Many rebutted your proposal, including people with outstanding credentials in the field. Overall, many felt your thesis was without merit based on the existing body of knowledge and feedback from highly credible experts. Some of the rebuttals were made in a demeaning and unprofessional manner – there is no excuse for that – unfortunately, it happens frequently when challenging an established idea, both in uncontrolled formats like CT and professional venues such as conferences and peer reviewed publications.

The main problem is the way you responded to the criticism of your proposal. Remember, when you are trying to change an established idea, you need to provide extraordinary proof. This is true for physics, medicine, or numismatics. Long winded diatribes about being taught to question authority, free country, blah, blah, blah just dug a deeper hole. You offered nothing more than “I think you all are wrong because I was taught to question things”. If you still feel your idea has merit, then you need to continue to present a logical, rational explanation with as much supporting data as possible.

 

I expect nothing less they have every right to express their opinions as the same as you. Unlike others when possible I always provide visual proof of what I'm claiming.
You know ldhair You know you and Chris say that I make false statements. But you don't see me going around and quoting text book definitions, which Chris is extremely good at.
Let's take for existence, a phrase used by you and Chris a lot along with other members, Grease filled die or stuck through grease.
If I do a Google search for NUMISMATIC errors definitions. Why is that I cannot find grease filled die anywhere in the definitions, but I do find struck through but surprisingly it doesn't have grease at the end. And this is one of the faults statement I agree I do make there is no such a thing. But yet in error definitions you cannot show me one listing that shows me that this is a legal definition.I believe one grading company I cannot remember which one, and their definitions they do mention grease Mark.

I believe I read an article can't remember which coin magazine.
It was talking about most major grading companies struck through grease was no longer being used, because they could not prove what grease or the amount of grease was involved in the strikethrough. But some grading companies still put it on their labels. At least that's what I seen on eBay. NGC no longer put struck through grease on its label.All they do is put stuck through. If you think this is faults check it out.

Believe me before I commit myself to a statement I check it out the best that I can.

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Let me see if I can make this easier for you, I understand and agree with you on some things. Start off with I don't propose anything. I express my opinions and that's it.
I'm not holding anyone down to the ground with her arm behind There back saying this is a way you should think. People that read this or any opinions of mine can either agree with them or disagree with them.

If they agree with my opinion that's their choice. If they don't agree with my opinion that's good to.
Start off with I'm not out to change anything. My opinion and opinions of others will make change happen eventually.
As you can see I'm not a public speaker. And one thing that gets me in the most trouble, is I speak my piece and do not sugarcoat anything. That's where the problem is people just can't handle someone Telenet like it is. People just can't handle it.

Yes that's a problem and I'm working on it believe me I'm a lot better than I'm used to be.

Opening you say I am proposing a new way of defining burrs. I know hundreds of men and a few women that would define a burr the way I'm defining burrs on a piece of metal or any other surface it's been cut or worked. Example, over 30 years I've instructed laborers to make sure they get all the burrs off a piece of material before installation. That definition of a burr has not changed in over 30 years.
One thing I like doing with new inexperienced laborers the first day on the job.
After learning how to cut a piece of pipe, I instruct the labor to get the burrs off the rim of the pipe. Then I get the question. Boss what's a burr, I instruct the labor to run his hand along the rim of that pipe. After getting a piece of the burr out of my laborers hand, believe me that labor never forgets what a burr is.Unfortunately that's the way I learned what a burr was

When it comes to coinage all the coin is as a piece of metal that's been Worked, and has an excess of metal on the rim sometimes.
All I'll say to you And others And

the experts prove me wrong and I'll shut up.
In my opinion there's three types of Burrs. 1 loose flight burr. 2 static pressure burr. And compress burr. This opinion is based on visual observation on my part. If you are any of the experts disagree prove me wrong. I'll accept the challenge.
USMC60