1941 nickel silver? 1942 S NON silver update

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by bryantallard, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    this is what mike diamond said about these 2 coins. does what he says imply that they MAY be what I hope? ty.

    1941 nickel. Ring and appearance does not distinguish this coin from other nickels composed of the standard 75% Cu / 25% nickel alloy.

    1942-S nickel. Appearance and ring indistinguishable from a Cu-Ni alloy. You should follow up with an x-ray flourescence analysis. These days many jewelry stores and pawn shops carry hand-held XRF guns that can provide a first approximation of metal content. Good luck!

    Let me know the outcome of the analysis of the 1942-S nickel. While you're doing that, you might as well submit the 1941 nickel, unless the cost is prohibitive.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I heard that one of these handheld XRF is worth about $17,000.00
     
  4. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    I actually just looked a few minutes ago. one was priced at 25k marked down to 19k. neither the coin stores, jewelry store, and pawn store said they don't have them. pawn store said they have some type of machine...but it might put a small dent in side of coin. idk what to do :-(
     
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  5. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Send them to ANACS. Only about $10 each plus postage. They are as good or better than NGC or PCGS for authentication. www.anacs.com
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That's you opinion. What is ss.. Oh you meant as

    NGC are my all time favorite! IMHO
     
  7. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    this is my first time going down this road so please excuse my question... if mike diamond is not able to 100% determine, does ANACS have required equipment to check?
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    They sure do.. The $10.00 you are sending them! :hilarious:
     
  9. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    They have experts on retainer that they can send items to if they don't know. If authentication is what you need, which I think you do, they are one of the best and much less expensive. And they are in the same city as ANA Headquarters.
     
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  10. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I have had to have things redone by NGC because they didn't know the difference between a Specimen and a business strike. I had to show them another TPGs holder to help them along. "Expert" is sometimes a relative thing.
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I will be honest.. I have my issues with NGC also. In my last 12 submissions, half the coins were tilted. It's like they rushed to get the coins into the slab. Very unprofessional!
     
  12. Blissskr

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  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Or put any questionable composition coins in the safe and wait a while. Instrumentation decreases in price while charge for service increases. I expect the handheld Xrf devices sufficient for this will be under $10K within 3 years and the service over $125 per, so maybe a CT group could start a business off forum.
     
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  14. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I had a full red 1942 Newfoundland Cent come back MS65RD by them. I asked them at an ANA show which one of their employees did the fingerprint on the coin belong to? They said it was there before they graded it. It wasn't, and I told them they would have graded it Red-Brown with the fingerprint. Their response was that they didn't guarantee copper. That's the problem with having people that make minimum wage in charge of valuable coins that they care nothing about. I washed my hands of them. Putzes.
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I don't believe any of the grading companies guarantee copper any more. You didn't mention how long occurred between seeing it wasn't there and then getting it back to see it was there. Fingerprints to develop on copper coins does take a longer time period to become visible, so I would question it unless they took an extreme amount of time to slab and return it.
     
  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    How would they know so quickly to say that the fingerprint was already on the coin, without investigating? Sounds like a stock answer.
    For example, a coin in that fine condition, the grader should have made a note that there was a fingerprint. (Which there probably was not.)
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    . Sorry for my inaccurate post
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    For authentication (as opposed to accurate grading, straight/details determination, and market value)?
     
  19. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    ANACS, PCGS and NGC. It just depends on the coin. You want your VAM ID'd, who you gonna call...ANACS. And for circulated coins they're all equal. NGC and PCGS use perception to maintain their position.
     
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  20. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Is the Villiage Idiot moniker a warning?
     
  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I will defer to you Jeff because I have a ton of respect for you, and will stand corrected.

    Truthfully, I didn’t read the post carefully enough because I missed the fact that the statement referred to ANACS as authenticators ONLY.

    My mistake. I apologize to The Finn for my mischaracterization of his post as well.
     
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