What do we got heeya ?? (Morgan)

I believe this to be a lamination on the left side of this Morgan.
Your thoughts ?

 

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It looks like a die crack to me.

Chris

 

I say Lamination

 

agree with Lamination, if you see it around the edge and long like that more likely to be lamination then a Die crack. Notice the almost peeling look to it. IMHO

 

If it was a lamination error, why does it not extend straight through the letters "E" & "P" of PLURIBUS or the 6th & 7th left-hand stars? This is something you would commonly see in die cracks, and I've owned dozens and dozens of them. You might want to browse through the VAM listings for photos exactly like this that are identified as die cracks.

Chris

 

I have never in all my coin collecting years have ventured into the VAM world.. How can I start? (And I only own 2 Morgans.. Both Mint Errors)

 

Here is the Home Page.

http://www.vamworld.com/

Once there, you can navigate the VAM pages from the left-hand column. You don't have to sign up to access this information.

Chris

 

Just an FYI there's only two or three vams with the date position matching this coin. None of which show this crack as a diagnostic. Which led me to my conclusion

 

I think it is a die crack. I have been under the assumption laminations travel diagonally mostly with the layering of the planchet's material.

 

Looks like a die crack to me. It would eventually become a cud.

 

I believe that it is actually a type of corrosion where some areas were protected by gunk on the coin and other areas were exposed to the corrosive environment.

 

What mint is it from?

 

It's pretty cool looking. Not easy to figure out from the image alone. Is this something you bought and don't have in hand yet? Or are you contemplating buying it?

 

Philly

I have in hand. The part that makes this tough is that its like a vf at best and very crusty

 

Reverse

 

@messydesk @SuperDave @Paddy54 @Insider

 

Oops almost forgot - @Cascade

 

Lamination to my eye, or defective blank with the image and wear hard to tell, however using the image provided lamination.

 

I'm going to go with environmental damage.

 

It is NOT A DIE CRACK! You will never see a die crack peel away from the surface. Just to CMA: Unless it is on top of the lamination; but I've never seen one like that - ever.

cpm9ball, posted: "If it was a lamination error, why does it not extend straight through the letters "E" & "P" of PLURIBUS or the 6th & 7th left-hand stars? This is something you would commonly see in die cracks, and I've owned dozens and dozens of them. You might want to browse through the VAM listings for photos exactly like this that are identified as die cracks."

It is not a die crack so what is it? Your post contained something I first noticed also. Part of the die break should go across a few letters as it looks like on the "E." But die cracks are NEVER undercut.

tpsadler, posted: "I have been under the assumption laminations travel diagonally mostly with the layering of the planchet's material."

IMO, your assumption is incorrect. I recommend you erase it from memory. Laminations travel in any direction on a coin depending only on the orientation of the impurity.

dcarr, posted: "I believe that it is actually a type of corrosion where some areas were protected by gunk on the coin and other areas were exposed to the corrosive environment."

The coin is definitely environmentally damaged. I think this may be a deposit on the coin. Soak it in acetone overnight. Otherwise, it is a lamination although I have never seen a lamination that curves through so much of a coins circumference. Sometimes coins with hammered edges look like this as metal gets pushed toward the coin's center.

If it is still there after the acetone, take a toothpick, sharpen a sliver and stick it into the crevice. Let us know what happens.