A new eBay grade

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Santinidollar, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    All of us (especially Morgan collectors) are familiar with the hype of eBay dealers: almost prooflike, should be DMPL, etc., etc.

    I found a new one tonight while looking at War nickels. We know PCGS gives the 5 full step designation, while NGC has 5fs and 6fs.

    This enterprising seller has several that he has personally designated 4 full steps. Line up and get them while they’re hot, I suppose.
     
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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Anacs also does 5.5 steps...4 steps is a new one...maybe I’ll list a few “super rare” no steps nickels soon.:facepalm::p
     
  4. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Should be plenty of 1954 S for you to market @ddddd ;)

    Most of the coin dealers 'round here just write "STEPS" on the 2x2. I always laugh when I see it, because I imagine an older numismatist looking down at a YN and saying,

    "Yes, Johnny....there are supposed to be steps on the reverse of a Jefferson Nickel. This coin doesn't have any, but others will. Good work."
     
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  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You're right! One would think that by now they'd know that simply slapping on "SAME AS x PIZZAS!" stickers work so much better and while telling potential buyers all they need to know. ;)
     
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  6. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    I saw an eBay listing touting rarity because only one coin had been certified at that particular grade. I think it was an XF-45 common date $10 Indian gold eagle.
     
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  7. carpman98

    carpman98 Active Member

    I had a chuckle once about 10 years ago, when I saw a Coin World advertiser touting a Morgan Dollar on the Sheldon Grading system as MS-63.25 .....
     
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  8. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    "We know PCGS gives the 5 full step designation, while NGC has 5fs and 6fs."
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but doesn't PCGS only show FS? w/o a number?
     
  9. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    You are correct. PCGS gives an FS designation for 5 or 6 steps. No number.
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Using this strategy for war nickels is ridiculous but I can see using 4 steps for issues that are extremely rare in 5 full steps. There is something to be said for a coin that just misses a designation due to a technicality. How about this war nickel in my collection.

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    The coin has an imperfection that interrupts the steps under the 3rd pillar, but in all other respects, the steps are strong.
     
  11. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Maybe it was in an AccGrade holder - but they only did tenths of a grade. So would this round up to 63.3?
     
  12. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I love it when they say a coin is the "only one known" because no one else has sent a 1998 5 Whatsits from Northeast Dipstickistan to NGC or PCGS.
     
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  13. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Exceptional Jefferson! You don't see many that are +*...now I'm sure it would earn a Green Bean and you would have a hat trick nickel! Even sounds good.
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Full steps be frogged. That is a splendid Jefferson.
     
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  15. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I seen someone selling a Jefferson Nickel with 7/8 Stairs..... curious I looked at the listing, I'm not sure if they counted 7 stairs and thought there was 8, or he's using the 7/8 as a percentage, but either way, it wasn't correct lol
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    They are probably using the quarter step method and then cutting it in half horizontally. For example, the 1958-D Jefferson shown below would grade 6-6-6-5 based on the PAK Full Step Nickel Club quarter step method.

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    If you were to cut the steps into 2 sets of 3, then apply the quarter step method, the coin would grade 3-3-3-3, 3-3-3-2 thereby making the steps 7/8ths full.

    Now, why anyone would want to make the evaluation of the steps that convoluted is beyond me.
     
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  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Imagine that on a slab, would look like the coin had two separate cert numbers.
     
  18. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

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  19. SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom

    SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom Well-Known Member

    I have been looking out for a 1944 Henning Nickel with only one step, the ultra rare "Doozy."
     
  20. Pyrbob

    Pyrbob Member

    I have two high grade 1944 Hennings and they do not have any steps. I believe he made his dies from worn host coins. But he did claim he made 6 reverse dies so it is an interesting feature to look for.
     
  21. SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom

    SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom Well-Known Member

    Then again, there's the NICE scale, for coins no other distinctive qualities...
    "Almost Nice"
    "Nice"
    "Very Nice"
    "Extra Nice"
    "Really Nice"
    "Almost Nicer"
     
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