Postumus galley

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  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The coins of Postumus come in two basic types, ones I can afford and ones I can't. The problem is most of the really neat types fall in that latter category. One of the better (IMHO) types of the low priced set is the galley with Laetitia Avg reverse. It suffers from a ragged break on the edge where the casting sprues separated in a bad way (now being discussed on another thread here) and a less than great portrait (scraggly beard compared to some) but it has a nice ship with helmsman and rower heads. I suppose this is a coin that might get upgraded but it followed me home from the show Saturday.
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    Perhaps a stupid question or two: Did the die cutter intend to show the ship was moving quickly when he cut the oars bent? Laetitia is a word in Latin with more than one meaning. Which was meant here and how does it relate to the ship? What was Postumus glad about?
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That is a really cool reverse type, @dougsmit !
     
  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Neat reverse. Perhaps to celebrate a victory over pirates or the Saxons?
     
  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Laetitia in this case is pictured as the ship , with Postumus himself steering it and
    bringing joy and prosperity to his people.

    The oars are bent in the wrong position , unless the galley is sailing backwards.
    A galley sailing to the left ,as is the case here, means usually that the emperor is coming home from a journey, the legend above is then FELICITATE.
     
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  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    The galley is going to the left. The oarsmen have their backs to the left. As they pull and the tips of the oars dig into the water, the oars might bend a bit, and if they did, that is how they would bend. The oars are not bent wrong.
     
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  7. Andres2

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    One way to be certain is the placement of the "steering board", the longer, oversized oar or board to control the direction of a ship prior to the invention of the rudder.
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  9. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin! The bent oars may have been an artistic shorthand for movement or speed such as motion lines in cartooning. I've always enjoyed coins that feature nautical images. Ships and prows and anchors.

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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Hadrian - - left oars straight
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    Caracalla - left - oars straight
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    Allectus - right - oars straight
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    The OP coin had curved oars suggesting pressure applied. Most show the oars pointed to the stern but gliding after a stroke rather than under pressure. The Republican below shows ship left with straight oars before starting to pull.
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    The best galley coin is the 3/4 front view right with oars all over the place.
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Oars straight for Marcus Aurelius: Marcus Aurelius.jpg
     
  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Very nice collection of galley's Doug. Everything looks normal the way the oars are pictured.
    The celator of the reverse of the OP coin probably wasn't a sailor and never set a foot on a galley imho. Makes the OP coin an exception among galley pictured coins.

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  13. greekandromancoins

    greekandromancoins Well-Known Member

    Doug,

    That photo of the Hadrian is stunning, especially the reverse.

    Peter
     
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