I Got my High Five!

I will get those, in due time Still a little miffed I let that Carthage bull slip through my fingers...

 

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Yes... including the anticipation of pulling Pre-Denarius Rare Italia coins from Germany. It has provenance, but there is always those “ugh” feelings. Fortunately, once they got it to DHL, it aired over, blasted through customs USA within an hour, and total shipping was only days!

 

A fantastic set you have here @Alegandron !
I'm impressed Sir !

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Thank you Sir!

 

WOW
Speechless
What a terrific set, cool as hell!
Congrats, ye must be very happy (this has been a difficult year for ye, I know for sure).
Well done, mo caraid

 

Thank you so very much for the kind words. It was a real joy and sense of accomplishment despite a tough year. Would enjoy meeting sometime to share a dram or too!

 

I have a nice 18 year old Glengoyne you might enjoy

 

Oh, had that with some friends whilst living in Cymru! Love it! Let’s enjoy that sometime Andrew!

 

Impressive! A Populonia Etruria collection is an extremely interesting niche and you have done a superb job of collecting some wonderful coins. Congratulations!

My small Etruria collection...


4th-3rd century BC
AR 10 units (c 4 gm)


350-200 BC
AE Uncia (struck issue) 9.01gm - 22 mm

 

I have never seen that AE Quartuncia before....very impressive!

 

I WANT your Etrurians! That 10 Asses is fantastic! And the Double Axe (yeah, I know the proper name), is way in your interest area.

Yeah, the Quartuncia is pretty cool... Here is the story:


ETRURIA, Arretium (?). The Chiana Valley. Circa 208-207 BC. Æ Quartunica . Head of African right; monogram to left / Indian elephant standing right, bell around neck; monogram below. HN Italy 69; SNG ANS 41 (same obv. die); SNG Copenhagen 48 var. (no monogram on obv.). rare.

This enigmatic issue has been much discussed. It was Sestini in 1816 who first indicated their area of circulation in and around the Chiana (Clanis) valley and lake Trasimeno, dominated by the cities of Arezzo, Chiusi and Cortona. The traditional attribution of the issue to 217 BC, as representing the propaganda of Hannibal’s approach to Etruria, was modified by Robinson (op. cit.), who saw it as a provocative seditious type of Arretium, which was in a state of high tension with Rome in 209/8, in the hoped for arrival of Hasdrubal from Spain with reinforcements. However, the reverse depicts an Indian rather than African elephant with a bell around its neck reminiscent of the elephant/saw aes signatum issue (Crawford 9/1) of about 250-240 BC and associated with the battle of Maleventum (soon to be called Beneventum) in 275 BC when the captured elephants of Pyrrhus were brought to Rome in triumph. A similar Indian elephant is also depicted as a symbol on the Tarantine nomos issue (Vlasto 710-712), indicating the presence of Pyrrhus in the city in 282-276. The Barcid coinage of New Carthage (Villaronga CNH, pg. 65, 12-15) and that of Hannibal in Sicily (SNG Cop. 382) clearly depict African elephants belonging to the elephant corps from about 220 BC. As Maria Baglione points out in "Su alcune parallele di bronzo coniato," Atti Napoli 1975, pg.153-180, the African/elephant issue shares control marks with other cast and struck Etruscan coins of the region, she quotes Panvini Rosati in ‘ Annuario dell’accademia Etrusca di Cortona XII’, 1964, pg. 167ff., who suggests the type is to be seen as a moneyer’s badge or commemorative issue in the style of Caesar’s elephant/sacrificial implements issue of 49/48 BC (Crawford 443/1). The elephant, an attribute of Mercury/Turms, is an emblem of wisdom and is also a symbol of strength and of the overcoming of evil.

 

Thanks for the background story, an interesting read. Which makes the coin even more appealing, good capture!

 

Great coins Brian! Thanks for sharing.

 

Hey @Severus Alexander , guess what I forgot that I had in my Carthage collection...


Carthage 216-215 BCE Sardinia mint AE 3.3g Tanit L - BULL stndg R CNP 377a

(The Seller had labeled it a STEER, and it is clearly a BULL...)

 

interestion coins great

 

Sure is a scrawny bull though.

 

Yeah, I used to judge cattle in my younger years... lol, agreed... dunno if it would had fetched market price at all!

But, well, we have to cut the Carthaginians some slack. MOST of their coins featured horses on the reverse... not too many bulls were ever featured...

 

Hah, how about that!! I nice one, too... lucky you didn't win the other one, then! So weird to see a bull on a Carthaginian coin... something to do with Sardinia maybe?

 

Sorry I missed this thread during the hurricane blackout. Very cool set and a real coup!

That 5 asses must be very rare-- nice find!

Two of my friends, neither of whom are ancient coin collectors, have tasked me with finding them each an Etrurian head of African/elephant bronze. That's going to be tough since I want one too

 

Outstanding collection! Out of curiosity, how would you tell the difference between an Indian and African elephant on a coin?