Where that metal in your coins originated... according to astronomers

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Unless it's GoldSchlager![​IMG]
     
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  3. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Let them eat cake...and drink gold!
     
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Created by merging neutron stars, captured by the early Earth from a nebula cloud and stired in the molten interiors of the young planet, then deposited by volcanic activity Billions of years ago in what would eventually become the continent of Europe. Mined by Carthagenian slaves in the silver mines of Hispania (Spain) in late 146 or early 145 BCE, and struck in Rome in 145 BCE, probably by Macedonian Greek slaves captured from the recent Macedonian Wars. Then spent by ancient Romans and burried in a hoard for two millennia until dug up. Eventually it entered the marketplace and was sold by NFC in the early 1970s in a mail auction for $94 Dollars, and then resold by the dealer Joel Matel in 1977 for $96 Dollars. Eventually sold to Civitas Galleries (probably as part of an estate sale) in the 2010's and purchased by me in 2016 for $140.

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    M. Junius Silanus denarius
    Rome Mint, 145 BCE
     
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  5. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I personally prefer gold pressed lattinum:)
     
  6. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    I guess I'll feel a little differently when I pack my lunch tomorrow morning knowing that a star died in a supernova billions of years ago to furnish the aluminum foil I wrap my food up in!
     
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  7. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    How about the star that died to furnish the molecules you, yourself, are wrapped in: those which make up your skin?
     
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  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Picture this...the big bang created matter and antimatter. Luckily there was more matter than anti-matter and enough matter was left to have Hydrogen. Then that material was forged in giant blue stars with very short lives, and which died violent deaths, to create the heavier elements that allowed for longer lived stars and nebulas. Eventually one such nebula in this cycle created the sun and earth...and the rest is history. Really fascinating stuff. Our atoms could have passed through a dozen stars or so before we got here. And some of your atoms could have made up elements like gold or silver before being broken down inside another star and combined into newer and different elements, and eventually forming part of your body somewhere down the line.
     
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  9. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    All of which is predicated on the big bang. I, personally, have always had more of a non-Euclidean approach to this matter. Always made more sense to me.
     
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  10. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    <looking at the junk on my desk>
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    <trying to imagine how many dead stars are represented there>
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  11. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Yes, but wouldn't a non-Euclidean approach still make allowance for the big bang as one of a possibly infinite number of "explanations" for the origin of the universe(s)?
     
  12. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Sure, but it would be infinitely in the past so we could essentially ignore it. It wouldn't really be a bang, it would be more of a puff.
     
  13. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    I'm afraid you've lost me now. What exactly would be the imperative responsible for restricting/consigning the Big Bang to a space-time locus in a murky "infinite past"?
     
  14. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    But I guess all that matters is that I possibly used to be a carrot, and that carrot used to be a star, so now I'm a star.;):happy:
     
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  15. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Non-Euclidean geometry can stretch things infinitely.
     
  16. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    That may be so, but don't we have to take into account that while Non-Euclidian geometry allows us to formulate workable theories ABOUT the universe it still has to "co-exist" with Euclidian geometry when it comes to the PHYSICAL REALITY of the universe?
     
  17. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    No it does. Euclidean is only good locally. Relativity is all non-Euclidean.
     
  18. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din, which is to say, you are indeed correct.
     
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