1984 mint error questions with pic

I just listed this one on ebay, but maybe I should hold on to it?

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very nice find 20 years ago

my opinion is that you might want to use the word "cud" on ebay . you might get more hits but again that is my opinion

i added it to my watch list - just curious of what you get - snowman

 

already got one bid,,, guess I can't change the listing anymore, only add to it. Thanks for the "cud" tip, I was able to add it to the title.

 

Where's the cud? I see none.

Looks like a strikethrough to me.

 

The obverse looks like a strike thru.
The reverse, wow, Ah don't know.

 

Is it me, or does it look like this coin got cooked?

By no means am I experienced with this type of error, but for some reason, If this were a broken die on the reverse side, wouldn't the lines be alittle more defined, or does the zinc actually melt during the minting process?

(If I had to guess, I would think it's a broken reverse die that would cause this type of error, the metal extruding into the direction of broken die, but from the picks, it's hard to determine if that's what happened. Someone more experienced than me needs to chime in).

 

Another picture,,, also look at my ebay listing for angled shots,,,

 

My gut says that this is not a real error. I'm sorry but that just doesn't look like a broken die error to me...nor a strike through.

Speedy

 

Looks like it was torched to me.

 

At this point I would believe anything,,, BUT what about the ridge extruding to 2 mm?

 

I agree with this.
The reverse is burnt.
Further proof is provided by the rippling affect from the center of the burn.

 

I do not think that it was torched. The "cud" area still has the normal cladding blisters. If it were torched, either the copper would be gone or it would be one big blister. However, I have no idea what did happen to the coin.

 

I have never seen anything like it, does not look natural at all. There is not enough metal " lacking " on the obverse to fill that reverse " bubble ". Somethings wrong.

 

Well, I just added some more pictures to the ebay listing, and added a GUARANTEE that the coin would be graded as a mint error,,,,

 

Better be sure, it may just be a headache for you and buyer.

A while back, I sold a 1878-S PCGS MS-65 Morgan. Listed it as a Vam 6 or 16 dbl " LIB" , can't remember, and offline guaranteed a question / bidder that it was the Vam. He ended up winning it, sent it back to PCGS to reholder and attribute, and it failed the attribution.

I was too sure of myself and my limited knowledge of the specialties of the series. Confidence on my part cost us both alot of time, and me alot of $$$.
I bought the coin wrong as a VAM, sold wrong as a Vam, and made myself look stoopid.

Only guarantee if you are rock solid 110% sure

 

I sure wouldn't have done that---and I bet you will wish you hadn't either. Think about it, someone buys it and sends it to PCGS for grading. Now they only have this one coin and so they can't send it the cheap way, plus they want it back fast so they do everything next day plus they insure it when they mail it. It comes back fake and you have to shell out a few hundred dollars just for posting that.

Speedy

 

looks like post mint damage (smashed and tapped) by a tool

 

I may end up just canceling the auction and getting it graded. In my Guarantee, I send it to the grading service BEFORE the winner pays me for it, should the winner want it graded. This only applies should the coin sell for more then four times what it cost to grade. So if the coin sells for the $40-$120 that one member suggested, I probably wont need to pay to have it graded. But if the coin sells for hundreds or thousands and I "Win" the ebay lottery, then I pay to get the coin graded to give the new owner piece of mind.
This is NOT some coin I bought on eBay, I have had it in my possession for over 20 years. Notice how crisp and clear the lettering is, no wearing and scratching and other damage.
The very defined and albiet impossible to counterfeit high ridge has got to be a tell-tale sign of mint error. Maybe not Die breakage, but may damage in a previous operation i.e. putting the rim on,,, Which would put this error earlier in the manufacturing process and a MUCH RARER find.

 

Which could also put this as just plan ol' damage like we have said and not a rare find at all.
I'm sorry if I sound like I'm not all keyed up about this coin---but there is nothing about it to suggest that it is a real error, in fact I would say that it points to the way that it is damaged.
The type of errors that people have suggested just don't look like this.

Speedy