Holy Cow! I got a 'Grail' Coin!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    We specialist live and die by these so called 'grail' coins. They don't come along very often, but when they do it is a cause for celebration! I'm happy to report that I finally got one of mine. It only took 14 years.

    D816 (5)sm.jpg Domitian
    AR Denarius, 2.73g
    Rome mint, 95-96 AD
    RIC 816 (R2), BMC 243, RSC, 175
    Obv: DOMITIANVS AVG GERM; Head of Domitian, bare, bearded, r.
    Rev: Temple, eight columns, seated figure in centre; IMP CAESAR on architrave
    Ex Private Collection.

    Domitian struck a rare undated issue of denarii depicting five different temples. Based on portrait style and the fact that Domitian's moneyers were experimenting with new reverse designs after 94, the issue has been dated to either 95 or 96. Four of the five temples have been identified - Serapis, Cybele, Minerva, and Capitoline Jupiter. The fifth type is an octastyle temple, seen on the coin above, and its identification remains a mystery. Mattingly conjectured it could be the Temple of Divus Vespasian, P.V. Hill and D. Vagi thought it possibly the Temple of Jupiter Victor, R.H. Darwell-Smith speculated it is the Temple of Jupiter Custos, and M. Tameanko believed it to be the Temple of Divus Augustus. Tameanko makes the strongest case: Earlier renditions of the temple on the coinage under Caligula show it with a hexastyle facade. Domitian restored or rebuilt the temple after the fire of 80. His architect Rabirius may have completely overhauled the building in a more contemporary style producing an octastyle temple. Almost a hundred years later Antoninus Pius restored the temple again and struck a series of coins commemorating the event. His coins indeed depict an octastyle temple very much like the one seen on this denarius and may be additional proof that under Domitian the temple was rebuilt as an octastyle structure. However, until more evidence comes to light, the identification remains uncertain. Like Domitian's earlier Saecular Games series, the temple denarii were likely struck as a special issue, perhaps reflecting Domitian's new interest as builder. The remarkable bare headed portrait further enhances the issue as something special.

    Needless to say it is a fantastically rare piece! Additionally, the eight column type may be the scarcest of the temple group, considering I have located only two other examples in trade over the last 15 years. The other two coins (OldRomanCoins 2002, HJB 145, lot 265) are obverse die matches with mine. Oddly, some specimens (BM 234 for example) lack IMP CAESAR on the architrave.

    This coin will easily make my 2017 top ten list.

    Please share your 'grail' coins!
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Awesome finds, congrats!
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    <heavenly choir>

    Congratulations!

    </heavenly choir>

    GrailCoin.png
    (No elliptical selection tool in MS Paint, so your coin got a wee bit shaved, I'm afraid)
     
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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Congrats on finding one of your grail coins! Love the temple reverse.
     
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  6. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Wonderful coin and, as always, terrific write-up. I had never heard of Domitian's "temple series" - very interesting.
     
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  7. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Congrats! Very very nice coin.
     
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  8. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    I've experienced the high from acquiring a coin that I've been chasing for a long time—followed by a low or crash period when I ask my self now what? :confused: Those are the highs and lows of being a collector. I'm going through that right now after my latest Herod Antipas purchase. The high is definitely exhilarating! :woot: Congratulations @David Atherton !
     
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  9. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I understand why it's so special to you. A major acquisition

    Q
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    CONGRATULATIONS @David Atherton ! Wonderful write-up, awesome capture, and what a GREAT feeling! Since I enjoy a few specialized niches, I know that feeling of finally finding that fantastic coin that was difficult to find! Good job!
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice and I'm glad for you.
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    On the hunt for 14 years? I can only imagine how great it feels to finally have captured it.....Huge congrats!!!
     
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  13. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    jupiter.jpg This is a Temple anyway.
     
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  14. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Congrats, mate!!! :)
    What's next? the roman Coliseum... :p
     
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  15. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Congratulations, that is a very attractive temple design with nice detailing. Too bad they are so rare i am sure everyone would like one now.

    John
     
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  16. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Nice find David, congrats!
     
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  17. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Congratulations on the coin capture. Im sure after hunting for 14 years it feels a bit surreal to finally have the coin.
     
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  18. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    congrats. I know what it's like to finally get a certain coin after 14+ years... best feeling ever.
     
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  19. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    Congratulations! Crossing a coin off of your list after that long must be very satisfying!
     
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  20. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Terrific! LOL
     
  21. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    Please share your 'grail' coins![/QUOTE]
    Any others to see would love to see more!!!
     
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