[Game] World Coins Time Machine… Counting Backward by Year! (Plus Prize Coin)

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  1. Jimski

    Jimski Well-Known Member

    India, Madras Presidency, East India Co., 10 cash – Salvage from the wreck of the Admiral Gardner, which sunk off the coast of England in 1809.
    1808 India 10 cash obv.jpg 1808 India 10 cash rev.jpg 1808 India 10 cash, cert of auth.jpg
    From: http://sohomint.info/gardner.html
    The Loss of the Admiral Gardner

    The weather in January 1809 was cold and inclement. … Despite the weather, a small group of East India Company ships, the Admiral Gardner, named after a famous naval officer of the time, the Carnatic and the Britannia, set sail from Deptford, in the port of London, bound for the East Indies, via Madeira. Forming a significant part of the cargo on the Admiral Gardner were 46 tons of coins struck by Matthew Boulton at Soho Mint, comprising ten and twenty cash copper pieces, for use in the Company’s trade in their Madras Presidency.

    Leaving the Thames estuary, and passing Margate, the weather subsided into a calm, and the flotilla was forced to anchor to save themselves from drifting on to the Goodwin Sands, just four miles off Ramsgate, a notorious area of sandbanks and uncharted hazards. Then, a west-north-westerly gale got up, increasing in strength, and the ships’ anchors failed to hold in the sandy conditions. The ships began dragging towards the sands despite heroic efforts by the crew to avoid a fate which was fast becoming inevitable, and in the early hours of the morning of 25th January, the Britannia and the Admiral Gardner ran aground off South Foreland, and began to sink into the sands.

    Captain William John Eastfield, the officers and crew, remained with the stricken Admiral Gardner until 3.35pm when, at the risk of their own lives, they were rescued by men from Deal. One crewman from the Admiral Gardner and seven from the Britannia were lost, together with both ships and all the cargo.

    And there it remained, with the exception of a few items salvaged in 1809, until 1984, when a local fisherman reported snagging his nets on some wreckage, which, as the story of the Admiral Gardner was well-known locally, was assumed to be the lost vessel. The divers who made the first dive on the wreck were amazed at what they saw. Exposed ribs, frames and decking outlined the shape of the ship. She was lying on a gently sloping sandy bottom at depths ranging between 45 and 60 feet of water. Along with her cargo of coins, some of which had spilled out from the barrels in which they were stowed, she had carried a quantity of cannon balls, anchors, iron bars and copper ingots being shipped out East.


    In 1985, with the wreck having been declared a site of historic interest, a licence to dive was issued and, as a result, considerable numbers of coins were recovered, including one intact barrel, estimated to contain 28,000 pieces. Coins recovered from the wreck can be easily found for sale though, as might be expected, their condition can be somewhat variable after 175 years on the seabed!

    This coin was struck at Matthew Boulton’s Soho Mint on steam powered presses. It would be 2 years later when Britain’s Tower Hill Mint would be fitted with Boulton’s steam powered presses.
     
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  3. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Here's my 1808s. Bern and East India. Need to get a better scan of the Bern coin. It's part of my bears collection. 1808 bern half batzen.jpg 1808 east india 10 cash.jpg
     
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  4. coin_nut

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  5. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    A couple more from the Dutch East Indies. The first one, is that what you call a "clipped planchet"? 1808 IB 5-32 g obv (3).JPG 1808 IB 5-32 g rev (3).JPG 1808 JAVA VOC 1 d obv.JPG 1808 JAVA VOC 1 d rev.JPG
     
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  6. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

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  7. RomanTheRussian

    RomanTheRussian Well-Known Member

    1808 was another transition year at Mexico City with the (armored) bust of Ferdinand VII replacing the previous monarch Charles IIII.

    1808 Ferdinand
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    1808 Charles IIII
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    1808/7 overdate
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Great looking Classic Head cent! They sure aren't easily found like that, with such smooth, nonporous surfaces.

    Oh- Did someone say Admiral Gardner shipwreck coin?

    Want one?

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    Come enter my October giveaway, if you haven't already! :)

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  9. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I wonder if my 1808 X cash is from that ship wreck? I picked it up for about $15, which I thought was a good deal for an AU55 coin like that. I see them for sale online for $75 now.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yours looks a bit too nicely preserved for a sea-salvaged copper, though it's remotely possible. I think a very large portion of the total mintage of those coins went down with the ship.
     
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  11. Siberian Man

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  13. dirty_brian

    dirty_brian Supporter! Supporter

    how bout 1807
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  14. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    Here are a half penny, a VOC Java duit and a farthing 1807 GB 1-2 p obv.JPG 1807 GB 1-2 p rev.JPG 1807 JAVA VOC 1 d obv (2).JPG 1807 JAVA VOC 1 d rev (2).JPG 1807 GB farthing obv.JPG 1807 GB farthing rev.JPG
     
  15. RomanTheRussian

    RomanTheRussian Well-Known Member

    Here's my 1807 with an obverse strike-through

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  16. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Whoa! I have not had time to post my 1808:( Due to work.

    Here is a mint state example...
    AV 20 Franken 1808-J Paris Mint
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  17. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Now for 1807

    AV 400 Reis Lisbon Mint
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  18. yarm

    yarm Junior Member Supporter

    British Historical Medal #631, 48mm, gilt WM under glass
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  19. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    My only 1807. Austria 30 kreuzer. 1807 austria 30 kreuzer.jpg
     
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  20. dirty_brian

    dirty_brian Supporter! Supporter

    I have a bunch of those Austrian kreuzers that I never took pictures of. maybe I should
     
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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Sp3780-1807b.jpg
    UK, 1 peny - 1807


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    UK, 1/2 penny - 1807

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