The 10K+ club

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Here is a coin that I saved up for for two months(had to cut a lot of lawns for this baby!)
    AV Oktadrachm ND 28.09g./ 28mm. Alexandria Mint struck under Ptolemy VI 180-65BC
    obv. Arsinoe II Philadephos
    won for 17K fdd490db4679212a2404b880ea8ff628.jpg
     
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  3. Kentucky

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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous! I have long-coveted one of these for my women on ancient coins collection, but it has always been out of my reach. The sacrifices we make for a wife and kids, eh?
     
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  5. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Amazing piece! Worth every penny of 17k for a collector who is lucky enough to have a coin that beautiful and rare in their collection. I only spend around $100 a week on coins at most, though if I had 17k money available to spend on anything, it would go on a beautiful coin like yours!
     
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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I kinda got a system/ my wife made a deal with me. I work 40 hrs a week from April/Dec for paying the bills. She said everything over that is for me:happy:
    So, this year I took on even more work= 125K for coins. The 100 hr weeks in June/July/Aug. suck:sour:! But thinking of the coins makes me happy. Plus I get the Winter off to enjoy. I will be trimming cedar hedges tomorrow....
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Another beauty @panzerman

    Only? I wish!
     
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  8. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    I picked the wrong line of work lol! Worth all the hard work for those coins, you are extremely lucky! Once again, congrats on such a beautiful coin!
     
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  9. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Normally it is around $50, still a lot, I try to never go above $100, as it is very hard to control myself at the coin shop! I spend too much on coins...
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Don't we all; according to our spouses anyway
     
  11. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Wow that is a beautiful and absolutely massive gold coin. Thank goodness CT allows me to live vicariously through my coin friends. I'm not even fancy enough to own a photo of coins like that!

    Great coin @panzerman!
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Best thing about my work, I am outdoors in the fresh air/ do not have to dressup, mostly go shirtless/ even drink a few ice cold Coronas on hot days. Reason that i do well in my profession(lawn/garden services) I work alone/ no staff to pay/ little overhead/ I can get as much work done in a day/ as a bigger outfit with six emplyees! Clients nickname me, "The Army of one" aka Dolph Lundgren movie;)
    Well I am off to work, I got a few good bids on upcoming auctions....
     
  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

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    The one coin on this page would pay for the rest of my tuition, room and board, and still have some to spare.
     
  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    MAGNIFICENT!!!

    Since my absolute individual coin limit, combined monthly coin budgets or not, falls between 1-2K, examples of the type will only be those I visit in my dreams LOL
     
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  15. Cucumbor

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  16. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    Great coin, panzerman. Here's some of its siblings:

    Berenike ($33K, although it previously sold for $78K)

    Berenike.jpg

    Ptolemy III ($25K):
    PtolemyOctodrachm.jpg

    Regardless of what level you purchase, it's always worth being aware of what's available. There are coins where I've paid many times what a common example would cost because the coin is in uncommon condition. Knowing when an opportunity is truly special versus a dealer saying "finest known" or "extremely rare" is crucial to ensure you're paying the right price for the right coin.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2017
  17. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Congrats on a sweet looking coin. I have yet to reach even near that amount yet, though there are lots of coins I wouldn't mind getting in that range.
     
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  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Just got home from work;)
    Those two coins you posted are BEAUTIFULL, you have a magnificent collection...
    The Ptolemy III example shows how artistic the Ancients where in their coin designs/ way nicer then what is minted nowadays. Your coin photography is fantastic.
     
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  19. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Curious, you paid over 50% less for the Berenike than what is was sold previously. Did you get a sweet deal, or did they grossly over pay @ $78k (or a little of both)?
     
  20. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    I think it was a bit of both. It sold one more time in the middle for $48K which is probably more around where it should be priced today. I was shocked to get it at the level I did and was willing to go considerably higher: I won it on a "throw away" book bid at a Triton sale. There was a Berenike gold dekadrachm as the prior lot which I was also in the running for but was ultimately outbid. It was so strong it elicited a round of applause from the auction room... and the octodrachm was the next lot, which went for the opening price, my book bid.

    I sat in slightly concerned horror for a moment trying to determine if it was actually my bid or if I lost it to another book bid but ultimately decided to not bid against the book which was the right decision as I'd be running myself up. That was the last time I put a book bid in a live sale where I was attending in person: it's not worth the confusion.

    These Berenike II octodrachms are quite rare in nice style. There are two slightly nicer examples which have been on the market, both "selling" for 120K CHF hammer. When viewing auction records, it's important to keep an eye of skepticism from some auction houses: not everything that is listed as sold was really sold and it often takes cross-referencing with people who take notes in the room to get a more complete picture. One of these two coins has since resold for $62K which is roughly in-line with where I'd think it should be (~25% nicer than mine).

    Or, it's all just two people who keep their paddle up as long as it takes to win and no amount of quantifiable analysis will help to understand price.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
  21. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I appreciate the compliments!
     
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