The Roman Provincial Portrait Gallery Group Collaboration Thread

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Not jumping ahead--today is Antonia day! And rough as it is, that's a scarce one!
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I always arrive to these parties late. I have to backtrack for a moment with a coin of Gaius Caesar, issued under Augustus in Laodicea. This type was once attributed to Caligula, but reassigned to the prince Gaius. It's not a coin I own anymore, but I've never seen a better example of the type...

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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Shall we move on to Agrippina Sr., Germanicus, Nero* and Drusus Caesar, Drusilla and Julia**?

    *Not THE Nero, but Nero Caesar, brother of Drusus Caesar and Caligula, and son of Germanicus and Agrippina Sr.

    ** The other siblings of Nero and Drusus Caesar, Caligula and Agrippina Junior, are upcoming.

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    Germanicus and Drusus, c. AD 23-26
    Roman provincial Æ27,14.02 g,
    Lydia, Sardes, Restruck under Asinius Pollio, proconsul, c. AD 28-29(?)
    Obv: [ΔΡΟΥΣΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΓEPM]ANIKOΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡΕΣ ΝΕΟΙ ΘΕΟΙ ΘΙΛΑΔΕΦ[OI], Togate figures of Drusus & Germanicus seated side by side on curule chairs to left
    Rev: ΓΑΙΩ ΑΣΙΝΝΙΩ [ΠΟΛΛΙΩΝΙ ΑΝΘΥΠΑΤΩ], wreath enclosing KO[INOY] / AΣ[IAΣ]
    Refs: BMC 106, RPC 2995, SNG Cop-518.
     
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  5. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    I have a few with Germanicus, Nero and Drusus Caesar

    tiberius Drusus Germanicus.jpg
    Tiberius, with Drusus & Germanicus
    Spain, Tarraconensis, Hispalis (Colonia Iulia Romana)
    AS (Copper, 12.99 grams, 21.54 mm)
    Obv: PERM.DIVI.AUG.COL.ROM, bare male head to the left.
    Rev: DRUSUS CAESAR GERMANI(CUS C)AESAR around bare heads of the two princes face to face
    Reference: SGIC 333
    Ex Coin Galleries, New York Nov 10th 1993, lot 487 and belonged previously to the J.J.Copeland collection


    Tiberius with Drusus and Nero.png
    Tiberius, with Nero and Drusus
    Terraconensis (Carthago Nova), Spain
    AE 28 - 13.82 gm
    Obv: Bare head of Tiberius left
    Rev: Confronted bare-headed and draped busts of Nero and Drusus.
    Reference: SGIC 335

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    Germanicus & Drusus
    minted at Prymnessus in Phrygia (issue of Tiberius in honor of his deceased heirs)
    AE 1.78 gm - 15mm
    Obv: Bare head of Germanicus Caesar right (inscription unreadable).
    Rev: ΔΡΟΥΣΟΣ ΠΡΥΜΝ Bare head of Drusus Caesar right.
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My Frankenstein Nero and Drusus Provincial:

    RI Nero and Drusus Caesar under Tiberius Carthago Nova mint AE As 14-37 CE.jpg
    RI Nero and Drusus Caesar under Tiberius Carthago Nova mint AE As 14-37 CE
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nero Claudius Drusus
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    Nero and Drusus Caesar
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  8. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

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  9. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Shall we move on to Caligula and Caesonia? Post your provincials!

    Next: Claudius, his wives Messalina and Agrippina Jr, and his children Claudia Antonia and Britannicus. (His other daughter, Claudia Octavia, will be under Nero).

    I'll get the ball rolling with a few:

    Caligula Corith Pegasus.jpg
    Caligula, AD 37-41
    Roman provincial Æ 20 mm, 6.74 g
    Peloponnese, Corinthia, Corinth, Ae. P. Vipsanius Agrippa and M. Bellius Proculus, duoviri, AD 37-38
    Obv: C CAESAR AVGVSTV, bare head right
    Rev: M BELLIO PROCVLO IIVIR / COR, Pegasus flying right.
    Refs: RPC I 1173; Amandry (1988) XVII; BCD Corinth 405-6.

    Caligula and Caesonia.jpg
    Caligula AD 37-41
    Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm
    Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38
    Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, right
    Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus (some attribute to Caesonia, wife of Caligula) right, SAL AVG across field
    Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503.
     
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  10. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Only one Caligula provincial from Thessalonica with Antonia on reverse.
    Ae 21mm 9.28gm, RPC I 1574. 349.jpeg
     
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  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Sigh...going to be a while until I have anything else to contribute.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    All I have to offer here is a similarly worn coin of the type and the reminder that our friend TIF has a much nicer one which we will look forward to seeing again when her hurricane situation is resolved. My 'want list' includes two of these coins. One is an upgrade to this one and the other is the undertype before the countermark was applied.
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  13. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    I have 2 provincials to contribute. I was especially pleased to have been able to add Caesonia to my imperial family collection.

    Caligula and Augustus.png
    Crete mint
    Caligula and Divus Augustus
    AR drachm 2.1gm - 16 mm
    Obv: Γ ΚΑΙΣΑΡ ΣΕΒ. ΓΕΡ.ΑΠΧ.ΜΕΓ.ΔΗΜ.ΕΞΟΥ ΥΠΑ Bare-headed bust of Caligula r., sceptre over l shoulder
    Rev: Rad. Bust of Augustus l., seven stars around
    Reference: SGIC 406 / RPC 465


    Caligula and Caesonia.png
    Carthago Nova, Spain
    Caligula and Caesonia
    AE29 - 13.4 gm
    Obv: C.CAESAR AVG.GERMANIC.IMP.P.M.T.P. COS. Laureate bust of Caligula r.
    Rev: CN.ATEL.FLAC.CN.POM.FLAC.II.VIR Q.V.I.N.C. Bare-headed bust of Caesonia r.; SAL.-AVG. across field
    Reference: SGIC 419
     
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  14. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I love all these early issues. My only Caligula is a worn but interesting AE from Philadelphia, Lydia.

    PhilidelphiaCaligulab.jpg
    Lydia, Philadelphia. Caligula AE18. Dioscuri
    Obv: ΓAIOΣ KAIΣAΡ, bare head right, star behind
    Rev: ΦIΛAΔEΛΦEΩN ..., laureate and jugate busts of the Dioscuri right.

    "Older references identify imperial family members on the reverse but RPC identifies them as Dioscuri. RPC notes, "That the jugate busts probably do not represent Germanicus and Agrippina I, Germanicus and Agrippina as Apollo and Artemis, or Apollo and Artemis (see BMC; Imhoof-Blumer, LS, pp. 116-117; Trillmich, Familienpropaganda der Kaiser und Claudius, pp. 130-131) since the further figure can sometimes be seen to be laureate (e.g. 2023/1 = BMC 53). It must therefore be male, and the two interpreted as the Dioscuri, who had previously appeared on the coinage of Philadelphia." The Dioscuri are also found on the imperial coinage of Caligula. In addition, since the magistrate named on the reverse is a priest, religious symbolism would be appropriate. The facial features of the reverse busts do, however, resemble members of the family of Caligula. Perhaps the they are Nero and Drusus Caesars as the brothers Castor and Pollux."
    -FORVM ANCIENT COINS
     
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  15. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info @Roman Collector! I have always seen this coin attributed to Caesonia, will have to do more research.
     
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Time to move on to Claudius, his wives Messalina and Agrippina Jr, and his children Claudia Antonia and Britannicus. (His other daughter, Claudia Octavia, will be under Nero).

    Claudius and Messalina Alexandria.jpg
    Claudius and Messalina
    Roman Billon Tetradrachm; 10.32 gm; 24.0 mm
    Egypt, Alexandria, AD 45/46
    Obv: ΤΙ ΚΛΑΥΔΙ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒΑ ΓΕΡΜΑΝΙ ΑΥΤΟΚΡ, laureate head of Claudius, r.; LϚ (year 6) before
    Rev: ΜΕΣΣΑΛΙΝΑ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒΑΣ, Messalina standing l., holding children and ears of corn
    Refs: RCV 1869; SGI 495; RPC 5164; BMCG 75; SNG Cologne 88; Milne 106

    Claudius and Agrippina II.jpg
    Claudius and Agrippina II
    Roman provincial AE 12 Nummia; 9.30 gm; 25.0 mm
    Bosporos, under King Kotys I, AD 50-54
    Obv: ΤΙ ΚΛΑΥΔΙΟΥ ΚΑΙCΑΡΟC, laureate head of Claudius, right.
    Rev: ΙΟΥΛΙΑΝ ΑΓΡΙΠΠΙΝΑΝ CΕΒΑCΤΗΝ, head of Agrippina II, left, in loop ponytail; BAK before.
    Refs: SGI 5438; RPC 1925; BMC 13.52,7; Anokhin Bosporus 348; SNG Copenhagen 31.
     
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  17. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

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    Lydia, Tralleis. Æ18. Claudius, Messalina & Britannicus.

    Æ18 Trichalkon of Tralleis in Lydia, A.D. 43-48.
    Obv: TI KΛAY KAI CEBAC. Confronted busts of Messalina and Claudius.
    Rev: BRETANNIKOΣ KAIΣAREΩN. Britannicus, togate, standing almost to front, head left, holding grain ears.
    18mm. 5.40gm.
    RPC 2654.
     
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  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Maybe this should be posted under Nero, but here's Agrippina Jr on the reverse

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    Nero and Agrippina Jr, tetradrachm Alexandria mint, AD 56-57
    NEP KLAY KAIS SEB GEP AYTO, Laureate of Nero right
    AGPITTTTINA SEBAETH, bust of Agrippina junior right LG in right field
    12.5 gr
    Ref : RCV # 1989

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  19. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Gosh @ancientone, that's a really nice family grouping!

    Here are my provincials. Please excuse the poor quality of these photos. I bought most of these coins in the early 2000s and have not upgraded my photos.

    Claudius and Messalina.png
    Claudius and Messalina, minted in Alexandria, Egypt
    billion tetradrachm 12.23gm - 24 mm
    Obv: ΤΙ ΚΛΑΥΔΙ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒΑ ΓΕΡΜΑΝΙ ΑΥΤΟΚΡ Laurel hd. Of Claudius, r.
    Rev: Messalina stg. l, as Demeter, resting on column and holding 2 figures in her right hand, and grain sheaves in left hand, regnal year 4 (=AD 43-44) in reverse field
    Reference: RPC 5164, BMCG 75, Cologne 88, Milne 106.


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    Britannicus, minted in Smyrna
    AE16 (Copper or brass) 3.75 gm - 15.79 mm
    Obv: Greek legend: ZMYP beneath his bare head right. All within a circle of dots
    Rev: ΕΠΙ ΦΙΛΙΣΤΟΥ EΙKAΔI / OΣ, Nike advancing right, carrying trophy over shoulder. Circle of dots
    Reference: SGIC 516, Lindgren 562


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    Agrippina Junior, minted in Philadelphia, Lycia
    AE 16 - 2.7gm
    Obv. ΑΓΡΙΠΠΙΝΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΗ Agrippina Junior draped bust r.
    Rev: Cornucopiae; in field, ΦΙΛΑΔ-ΕΛΦΕ / ΩΝ Ν-ΕΙΚΑ / ΝΩ
    Reference: SGIC 530, RPC 3042


    Nero and Agrippina II.png
    Nero and Agrippina Junior, minted in Alexandria, Egypt
    billion tetradrachm 13.15 gm - 27 mm
    Obv: ΝΕΡW ΚΛΑΥ ΚΑΙΕ ΣΕΒ ΓΕΡ ΑΥΤΌ Laureate head of Nero right.
    Rev: ΑΓΡΙΠΠΙΝΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΗ Draped bust of Agrippina right, hair in plait, LE (58/9 AD) on right
    Reference: RPC 5231 (6 spec), Datt 189, Oxford 167, Emmett 107/5 (R4).
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Messalina:

    RProv Messalina-Claudius 41-54 CE Alexandria BI Tet yr 42-4313-1g 25mm RPC I 5131 O-R.JPG
    RProv Valeria Messalina m-Claudius 41-54 CE Alexandria BI Tet yr 42-43 13.1g 25mm RPC I 5131
     
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  21. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Looks like it's time to move on to Nero, Claudia Octavia, Poppaea, Statilia Messalina, and Claudia Neronis, the daughter of Nero and Poppaea.

    Nero and Claudia Octavia.jpg
    Nero, AD 54-68 and first wife, Claudia Octavia
    Roman billon tetradrachm, 11.1 g, 25.0 mm
    Egypt, Alexandria, AD 56-57
    Obv: ΝΕΡ ΚΛΑΥ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒ ΓΕΡ ΑΥΤΟ, laureate head of Nero, right
    Rev: ΟΚΤΑΟΥΙΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ, bare-headed and draped bust of Octavia, right; L Γ before.
    Refs: RPC 5202; BMC 119; SGI 657; Cologne 122; Milne 133; Emmett 127
     
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