What if i had a theory about how a error was made???

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by skootermcgavven, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Adan... you need to start your very own unique thread.. with pictures.
    And... there are no 1994 aluminum Cents
     
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  3. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  4. Adan

    Adan Can't complete a dollar without a dollar..

  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Adan.. once again, you need to start your own unique separate thread!
    That is not an aluminum Cent. It's somehow missing the copper layer exposing the Zinc. Most likely a damaged Cent.
     
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    My guess is that we could use factual history as a prime example as to why this is. Although many seem to think fake news a more recent invention, it's as old as humankind, and has been practiced in this country as much as any.

    If anything, kids today had better be suspicious of any book, periodical, website, etc, etc they may stumble across, and most regretfully, the same may go for their very "teachers". Unfortunately, my friend; the boogeyman is all too often real.
     
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    There's plenty of fake information in books. Simply being in a book does not make something true. One of the most prolific numismatic authors of all time is flat out known to make things up.

    History books are being rewritten ect. I'd actually be more suspicious of a modern book at this point not having a way to multi source verify it immediately
     
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  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Exactly what “base” said right here - it’s plus one (+1) all the way to the moon. Numismatic publishing, AND I’LL INCLUDE WHITMAN AND KRAUSE, includes more error and outright lies than any other field I can think of while typing this post on an iPhone SE. The entire field is rife with garbage authorship and always has been. I offer to you Mr. RWB’s reputation in the U. S. District Court for Eastern Pennsylvania as evidence. Coin people IN PARTICULAR, even authors, often make up myths and present them as facts.

    Further, we are now in the LEAST RELIABLE ERA EVER of publishing, RIGHT NOW, because of the loss of professional editorship and gatekeeping. Any schmo can have a website, blog, DISCUSSION BOARD SYSTEM (ahem!), and wrap himself in the vestments of believability. He can even self-publish a BOOK that is full of - - - -. There isn’t just a “fake news” problem. People are making nearly EVERYTHING up, EVEN publicly funded university researchers.

    The “democratization” of media is the proximate cause of its demise.
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

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  10. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I can't believe I read this whole thread.
     
  11. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

  12. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Since you did, can you summarize it and tell us anything you learned?

    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: I guess you just did.
     
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  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Be the prescient kid on the block ... regard MOST numismatic books that way even today, unless they are first-person eye-witness accounts, or based on contemporarily recorded documentation. Otherwise, they deserve Dewey Decimal System fiction treatment.

    In short, one must GO PLACES and WITNESS EVENTS or do “old school” documentary research, to be credible, not just sit at a stupid keyboard, or sit in a federal court witness box making stuff up.
     
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  14. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    I skipped the last four pages just to see if there is anyone left standing. Sorry to see there is.
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Believe nothing of what you read and only a fraction of what you see with your own eyes. 2017’s unofficial creed.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Also this, which millennnials have no idea is correct: the extreme majority, and not by a little bit, of what is on the Internet is wrong. Most is innocently wrong, but a significant chunk is intentionally and maliciously wrong by design.

    I do know this includes any post from @ErolGarip, but I’m only unsure if his stuff falls into the malice bucket or not.
     
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  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That's actually a much bigger problem then most people realize. Entire careers and fields have been made out nonsense research and attempting to prove it better and the money just keeps flowing in as it is trying to prove what someone wants to be true

    Sad but true. And they double and triple down on wrong information just because they don't ever want to say they're wrong and it seems to be more of a battle of egos a lot of the time
     
  18. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    I'm glad I don't fall in that majority. Most people at my school just are a pain to be around because they don't have a care in the world about anything.
     
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  19. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    And after they get out in the hard, cold world, they'll expect everyone else to take care of them--and get dangerously confrontational when the rest of us refuse to do so.
     
  20. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    So true. I fear for a sad future.
     
  21. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Yaaaawn.

    I'm pretty sure I'll have no trouble falling asleep now.
     
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