What if i had a theory about how a error was made???

If they are the type of YN's who choose to make the kind of commitment to travel to COS (airport code), there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't love me to death. I'm a frickin' sweetheart! Now the Internet slackers? Yeahhhhh... not s'much.

 

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I never heard that he did any acting. My conversation was short with his daughter. I did not want to impose too much. Looking back it was a amateur attempt but the best I guess he knew how to do at the time. I did not know the man personally and I won't speak badly on the deceased. And it was as was said above, many editions, many attempts, the last a complete failure. Some people are very hard headed I suppose. "If at once you don't succeed...". Oh well.

 

@V. Kurt Bellman
I have Spadones 1982 8th edition

 

Thanks. I had never even seen so much as a photo of that volume ever before in my life. Never heard of Frank, either.

 

Here is a CoinTalk thread I created over 2 years ago.. you will like the interesting comments!
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/19...us-coins-my-first-source.261195/#post-2108676

 

Thanks a lot. But I truly believe that had I encountered that in the 1970's, I never would have become a serious numismatist. The entire subject just leaves me cold. It's just the way I roll. I am pre-programmed to desire to search for perfection, not imperfection. I genuinely struggle to understand the error collecting mindset. At 62, I just may never "get it".

 

paddyman98, posted: "Here is a CoinTalk thread I created over 2 years ago.. you will like the interesting comments!
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/19...s-coins-my-first-source.261195/#post-2108676"

Thanks for this link. While I respect @mikediamond, recommend and use his website, and applaud his contribution to numismatics - Unfortunately, this little "Johnny-come-lately" who probably was not even born until the late 60's reminds me of the brash way I was at one time. Same with all the Breen haters.

It has been several years since his post in the link above and hopefully his opinion has mellowed. I have come to realize that we all should respect those that came before us - the numismatic pioneers - and learn from them while recognizing their mistakes. While I'm no Mike Diamond or well-known expert, I've made plenty of them.

One thing I'll guarantee 100%. In the future, after Mike is gone, there WILL BE revisions to his writings. Respectful numismatists will not hold that against him.

I hope someone will alert him to this post. I think I did.

 

Little Sis just brought over a half filled five gallon water jug and a huge piggy bank filled with cents yesterday. After only about 100 coins, I have already found two minor doubled dies and a 1998P WAM, all three nearly uncirculated. She stopped putting coins into these around 2005, so I have my fingers crossed. Yes indeed, a long winter project but will be a lot of fun. If I do happen to find that 1983 copper cent, I think I might have a laugh over all of this.

 

Thank you for that post. Even the Cherry Pickers Guide has made errors and corrected them. Everyone makes mistakes.

 

One problem of Mikes statement that Herbert's and Margolis's books were much better is that they didn't come along until ten to thirty years after Spaldone's work. Yes his book, viewed through what we know today, is a joke. But viewed through what was known at that time,it was a pioneering work. At that time there just wasn't a lot that was understood about errors and varieties by the average collector. If you read the error coin columns printed in the numismatic publications of the 40's, 50's, and 60's, a LOT of the explanations given for the "odd coins" submitted are wrong. As I said in the other thread the two major problems with his work was that it was filled with MINOR errors in a book that was supposed to be covering major errors and varieties (see the title), and that as time passed and more was known so that the mistakes in the book were identified, they were NOT removed from the later editions.

 

I am INSTANTLY suspicious of any field in which people are writing books with definitive statements during the relative infancy of the understanding of the subject matter. However, I do recognize that numismatic authors IN PARTICULAR tend to not be so deterred. A lot of "crap" gets into coin books, and more joins it yearly. Hey, just like untrue legends that abound here on CoinTalk!

I offer as one example all the UTTERLY FALSE garbage that went dressed as fact regarding the 2014 ANA show with the gold Kennedy release. Anyone who got their "information" (yeah, as if...) from reading CoinTalk is/was hopelessly uninformed, misinformed, and disinformed.

 

V. Kurt Bellman, posted: "I am INSTANTLY suspicious of any field in which people are writing books with definitive statements during the relative infancy of the understanding of the subject matter..."

"...However, I do recognize that numismatic authors IN PARTICULAR tend to not be so deterred. A lot of "crap" gets into coin books, and more joins it yearly."

IMO, this is gibberish as it is a narrow view of the subject. Who is going to determine the actual dates of the "relative infancy of the subject matter? Not any of us. We were not around.

I am a student of counterfeit detection. I've been learning about this subject for decades. Therefore, I can say with 100% accuracy that much of the info being touted as truth when I became interested in coins in the late 1960's was pure uninformed nonsense. However, I did not know this at the time.

The ONLY book around on counterfeit detection written by an Internationally known authenticator was full errors! The Organization of International Numismatists counterfeit collection that was part of the first authentication class I attended was full of GENUINE COINS labeled as COUNTERFEITS and ALTERATIONS! Nevertheless, these early authenticators and their books and columns CANNOT BE JUDGED BY WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE TODAY. They did the best they could while using all the knowledge they could muster at that time. They were the foundation during my introduction to authentication. YN's of today will use the works of others, alive now, to learn the subject. The books they use will have fewer errors. That is why I dislike the "new" folks and anyone else who disparages the folks who tried to enlighten us decades ago before their time.

@V. Kurt Bellman continued: "I offer as one example all the UTTERLY FALSE garbage that went dressed as fact regarding the 2014 ANA show with the gold Kennedy release. Anyone who got their "information" (yeah, as if...) from reading CoinTalk is/was hopelessly uninformed, misinformed, and [misinformed] disinformed."

Thanks for the information regarding these coins. Unfortunately, IMO, it has no bearing on this discussion at all. I believe we are discussing errors of a technical nature published in books rather than opinions, misunderstandings, press releases, and chat boards.

 

@Insider Now, I am having difficulty comprehending why anyone would be suspicious of any book, on any subject, they had no interest in, nor comprehension of why anyone else would have any interest in. Is it just me or....? Kind of like looking for boogiemen that do not exist.

 

You'll need to ask someone who is looking for a boogieman.

 

I'm game. Open minded

 

Think he's going to eat it and not clean it

 

Kurt is the bomb

 

That was great

 

Anyone no about a 1994 d oversized aluminum penny worth anything