What if i had a theory about how a error was made???

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by skootermcgavven, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I am unimpressed, but willing to listen to a theory. ALWAYS willing to hear an idea.

    Since it's a 1982 cent, we first have to weigh it. Agreed?
     
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  3. skootermcgavven

    skootermcgavven New Member

    I say this coin is multistruck and i can prove it
     
  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Given the amount of damage it has, I'd say you'd be EXTREMELY lucky to be able to say ANYTHING about the circumstances of its striking. Evidence has been largely destroyed.

    Big honkin' hint: NEVER TRUST ANYTHING YOU THINK YOU SEE ON A HEAVILY DAMAGED COIN! (Put it in granite - marble, even.)
     
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  5. skootermcgavven

    skootermcgavven New Member

    See i have another coin that i think is also multi struck but not in this fashion though. See what i believe is the the area on the face that look like wear and tear are in fact multi strikes ONLY BECAUSE those spots are raised much higher than the rest of the coin is. So I think the image was stamped over its self as if the coin rotated in the holder while being struck over and over. which is why the mold is so high in the center of the the coin. Now this is where it gets weird........ok i then took this pic and i did a overlay of itsself and made it clear. and when i rotated the image i could see it line up on spots you cant tell that are from the design until you see it line up.....so then while doing so i noticed that when the forehead cheek and jaw bone start layhering over each other you get the shape of the skeleton face when you posistion the lower jaw bone just right over the cheek bone and you start getting the shape of skull....the word liberty is ALL OVER THAT COIN but you cant really see it......want proof?
     
  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Seriously, put down the crack pipe, and slowly back away. Call a rehab center.

    Or you could go get a BU 1982-D large date bronze cent and look at the relief on ol' Abe's profile. It's amazing what you'll find.
     
  7. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Even my novice eyes saw it, experts didn't see. See there is "D"ouble strike on it.

    Ps: A suggestion to OP: Never tell your any theory, nobody will give you any credit.
     
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  8. skootermcgavven

    skootermcgavven New Member

    omg it didnt post
     
  9. skootermcgavven

    skootermcgavven New Member

    i can explain exactly how it was made
     
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  10. skootermcgavven

    skootermcgavven New Member

    ok im sorry i typed out a big explanation but it didnt post and im trying to find pictures. please bare with me about this. but i promise you im right....let me get it all together and i promise you i will post
     
  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yes, please stop talking about all this "proof" you supposedly have, and just get on with PROVING it.
     
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  12. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I have two Lincoln cents and a hammer ready...

    Actually, I'll bet we are going to see one of the Chinese "errors" when the image pops up. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
     
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  13. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    That is the most amazing error coin I've ever seen! Have you contacted anyone about it yet? I might call pcgs really quick to see if I can get the discovery recognition first!
     
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  14. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You're an evil man. Don't risk encouraging this kind of lunacy. We have enough lunatics in this field.
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Is there another image besides the beat to death 1982-D large date bronze (not zinc) cent with the blackish recesses and heavily abraded high points? Because that coin is a hot mess and NO KIND OF ERROR WHATSOEVER.

    Google "1982-D large date cent" (Images) and look at the relief difference between the "flatter" zinc ones of that date and the earlier-in-the-year bronze ones. The bronze ones show DEEP DEEP relief and the later zinc ones are flat flat flat relief. That's NORMAL, UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY NORMAL.

    The only abnormality in the coin you pictured is yours has been serially abused nine ways to Sunday. You got nuthin'!
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I have a theory too, and trust me, you don't wanna hear it. It's not good for you.
     
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  17. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    I hate to break the news to you, but just because something it is rare, doesn’t make it valuable.

    There are tons of examples of this in everything from cars to antiques, and yes even coins.

    Here’s just one non-coin example. The are lots of models of old cars where a six-cylinder engine model is rarer than the eight-cylinder model, but the eight-cylinder model is far more valuable because people demand the car with the bigger engine.

    There are lots of one-off error coins that just aren’t worth a lot. While extremely rare (you can’t get much more extraordinary than the one-and-only of something), if people just don’t care about owning it, it won’t be worth a lot.

    The 1955 double die penny is a good example. It is a bit of a celebrity coin. There are quite a few running around, but the demand is very high for it, hence the high price (value).

    So while you may be able to claim the right of discovery, that plus your coin probably won’t buy you a cup of coffee. But I could be wrong. That’s a big part of what makes collecting so much fun.
     
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  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It's rare alright. It's unique! It's the single ugliest perfectly normal beaten to death 1982-D bronze large date cent anyone ever photographed, or cared to give even a second look.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not wrong, but at Starbucks, that cent would have to be hanging out with a "fiver" to get that coffee.
     
  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Really, @Insider? You don't have an image of a beaten to crap cent at post #18? It's the usual - too much "digital zoom" and loaded with compression artifacts.

    You could never slab the coin because the label wouldn't have enough room for all the "9X" codes explaining why it can't be graded.

    C'mon, Scooter, I was born on a Friday, but it wasn't LAST Friday.
     
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  21. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I'm going to try to take a somewhat different path with this and hope for the best....

    While I certainly respect your enthusiasm, I'm also guessing you're rather new to this, right? I ask this not as an insult or any sort of a negative, but only because your general approach falls perfectly in line with what I've seen many times before with people possessing "fresh minds". Unfortunately, what can explained reasonably to the mind of a novice doesn't always translate to those more familiar with the minting process, and I fear is the case here.

    It's highly commendable that you've tried to do your homework, and have gone as far as to put together overlays. I urge you to post them, even if only because in doing so, you may be able to walk away with a better understanding of both your coin and any others you may come across down the road. Sure, some here will be a tad harsh with you, and a certain other as if a yapping little dog, but so what? If this is an area that interests you, and/or one that you've already made your hobby, the more you learn the better off you'll be. Take away what you can regardless of who it comes from, and leave the nonsense to the little ones.
     
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