1883 V Nickel Cent-less Obverse Machine Doubling?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by silverman987, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. silverman987

    silverman987 Member

    I just bought an uncirculated 1883 Cent-less V Nickel off of eBay. Upon further inspection of the picture, I noticed some really strong machine doubling on the date. Attached are pictures of the obverse and reverse. My question is, is this, in fact, machine doubling? Does it look cleaned in any way and what would it grade? I have a general idea but wanted the opinion from more people.

    Thank you!

    1883 Cent-less V Nickel Obverse Machine Doubling.png 1883 Cent-less V Nickel Reverse.jpg
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    IMO, that is not machine doubling. Anyone know why?

    Additionally, it is Uncirculated. Although not 100% original - straight grade.
     
  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Either MD or re-punched date. Nice coin...MS62?
     
  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    no, why
     
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Actually I would think MD would show up on all the numbers equally?
     
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  7. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It's a Repunched Date variety.

    There are 12 different dies for
    this date /NC listed in the book
    by Kevin Flynn and Bill Van Note:

    "Treasure Hunting Liberty Head Nickels"
     
  8. silverman987

    silverman987 Member

    Thank you, Fred! I'm not too familiar with error coins and especially different varieties. I'll have to check out the book.
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Any collectors wish to explain why this is a repunched date and not MD?
     
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  10. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It's RPD-001 in that book.
     
  11. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Hey Socrates, just tells us.
     
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  12. Insider

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    CoinCorgi, posted: "Hey Socrates, just tells us."

    :D:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: I see you've been around long enough to remember what Doug posted...

    :p Nope, then you won't learn anything. :sorry:
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    You can also find reference to that 1883 RPM in "The complete guide to Shield & Liberty Head nickels" by Peters & Mohon. Out of print but worth owning.
     
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  14. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Lol... cause they matched it up with images that show it as a RPD... same way you would match it up with any doubled die...?
     
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  15. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I wouldn’t argue with mr Weinberg. He knows his stuff.
     
  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Paddy54, posted: "You can also find reference to that 1883 [RPD] in "The complete guide to Shield & Liberty Head nickels" by Peters & Mohon. Out of print but worth owning."

    Thanks for the info. While I agree this book is "worth" owning, unfortunately, it has been superseded by newer references. For example, there is no mention of this specific RPD in their book.
     
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  17. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I think he meant to say RPD lol... unless I am blind and can’t see the mintmark.. re punched mint mark =RPM... Re punched date = RPD. Just so you don’t start cal calling RPDs, RPMs ;)
     
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  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Tyler Graton, posted: "I wouldn’t argue with mr Weinberg. He knows his stuff."

    Mr. Weinberg identified the coin as an RPD. I should think some :bookworm: members would like to know the characteristics of that coin that indicated to both of us that it was an RPD rather than MD. :happy:

    For folks who don't care :facepalm: and think they can look up images in a book or on the Internet :confused:....Not every variety is imaged; not every variety is known. ;)

    PS I miss this place. I cannot use color on my new favorite web site. :(

    PPS Thanks Tyler! I'll correct it! :eggface::facepalm::sorry:
     
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  19. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Only guessing here but the notched 1 and die cracks being used as markers? I'm not really familiar with the varieties in this series.
     
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  20. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I’m really not seeing where Fred has identified this as a rpm... my blindness must be very bad. Can you point out where he identifies this coin as an rpm?? But I see paddy54 called it an rpm by accident and saw you start calling it that... just saying lol. But do show me where Fred made this mistake. Don’t worry I’ll wait. :woot:
     
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  21. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Notches are often found on RPD's as well as Doubled Dies. What about the "8" and "3?" What do you see and in what way would MD look differently on those numerals?

    Thanks again Tyler. I cannot! FRED USED THE CORRECT LETTERS! :eggface::facepalm::shame: AGAIN.

    Now forget the BS and try to answer the question I asked. I'm not staying around much longer and will check back later.
     
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