1972 DDO FS-106?

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  1. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    I don't see the scratches on reverse roof but I do see a gouge above the D I think. I know it has to have all of the same markers. I assumed it was a 04 or 06 cause they are the only 2 with die chips on the rim that I know of. On the right track? 0917170708_HDR.jpg 0917170702_HDR.jpg 0917170656b_HDR.jpg 0917170707a_HDR.jpg 0916171812d_HDR.jpg 0916171811e_HDR.jpg 0916171812c_HDR.jpg
     
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  3. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    There you go. Yup I think it's 106. That's a nice find. I'm not sure if it will be worth much in that condition but I would hold onto it.
     
  4. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Wait till @jay4202472000 comes and let's you know what he thinks.
     
  5. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    I thought so. Thanks.
     
  6. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    I have a 71 I thought was a ddo as well. Ill post in a few.
     
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  7. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I'll be waiting ;)
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  9. NewCollectorRick

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    I said I thought it was but did not see the markers. I'm looking now trying to find it. I have another one that I'm having a hard time with that I think is really a 006. I might be seeing things but the dot under the N on reverse (Unum) and just below and far right of the Y in liberty. I think it was stage c but ill double check 0918170213a_HDR.jpg 0918170210_HDR.jpg 0918170212e_HDR.jpg 0918170214c_HDR.jpg 0918170214_HDR.jpg 0918170211_HDR.jpg 0918170214a_HDR.jpg 0918170212_HDR.jpg
     
  10. NewCollectorRick

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    I didn't mean 6. It might be 007 I'm thinking of.
     
  11. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    I don't see nothing
     
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  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ditto
     
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  13. ldhair

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  14. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    I really think now my colorblindness is affecting my choices. I see what looks like its doubled on the top and around the top of the 2 as well as the 7. I will move it to the scratch pile.
    Any idea which the first one is ? Or possibly answer a question. So....the die chips on the west side of the obverse are listed on the DDO FS-104 & FS-106. Is it possible for varieties 2 , 3, 5 etc. to have the die chips on the edge or is it only specific to a few varieties only ?
     
  15. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    I know the serifs are not broke but just seeing if I'm noticing the wrong thing here. This is just an example. Not claiming it to be anything but in the word trust I see a line down the middle of the T , the top of S , the 3 of date. The colors might just be too close for me to be seeing the proper lines unless well defined doubled dies. Browns, reds, greens and grays are my hardest colors to see. I get them mixed up constantly especially diff shades such as a coin tarnishing.
    The posters in school where they have tons of tiny images and you see a building or a message when you stare at it long enough, I could never see the image because of the color blindness. I feel I've been doing this long enough now that I shouldn't be making some of the mistakes that I am. I hate posting so much and being wrong. Hope its not my eyes and I'm just s.o.l with this hobby. 0918170711a_HDR.jpg 0918170711_HDR.jpg
     
  16. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    This coin is different than the others, but LIBERTY, the N in IN, and D in GOD point to the master die doubling. Compare it to this:
    http://www.lincolncentforum.com/1972-master-die-doubling/

    I don't see anything on the other 1972 later in the thread.
     
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  17. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    Wow. That's exactly it to a T. Thanks Jay. Glad I know that now. I did know 50% of 72 s had doubling of some sort but the pictures really helped. Thanks again.
     
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  18. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    You must match the doubling first, the go looking for die chips, scratches, gouges, ect. (die markers) to confirm the individual die. Any die can chip and markers come and go throughout a die's life.

    Let's use 004 for an example. If you found the very first coin struck from that die, it would not have the rim chips to the west of LIBERTY. See Wexler's stage A photos: http://doubleddie.com/384301.html
    If you found the very last example struck, the gouge inside the N on the reverse may have worn away and a full blown CUD formed covering half of LIBERTY. Probably an exaggeration, but it could be.

    Point is, match the doubling, then confirm with markers.

    I was up against the buzzer on a 1909 VDB-DDO-002 and bid on the die chips in LIBERTY alone. I spent almost $10 on a "copycat" die. It had the filled B & R, but no doubling. I learned to never go on markers alone. See stage D to see my mistake: http://varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1909PDDO002.htm
     
  19. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    Yeah I've watched the different stages and how it changes throughout the die stages. CONECA is my go to usually. I'm getting better about checking the others as well.
    Just went through line at home depot 5 min ago and got an interesting nickel. I don't do nickels but ill post a thread.
     
  20. NewCollectorRick

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    That hurts. I learned what markers were and depending on them a little bit too much.
     
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