Constantine, Constans, Constantinius, I, II, and argh!

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  1. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    I need to vent for a moment if you will indulge me. A bunch of the coins I'm trying to identify are from among these Emporers....and it's driving me batty.

    I've pulled examples of each from different websites, and I have two different books, but it's still slow going and at times, it's maddening. My guess is it will get better as I become more experienced.
    Until then, my dogs are being serenaded with a rousing and gratifying ( for me)tapestry of profanity (at least when my son isn't helping).

    Ok, rant off - thanks for listening.
     
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the Dark Side :D
     
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  4. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    It does get easier. The key thing it to try to do it yourself, it is frustrating but the penny will suddenly drop. We have all been there.

    Are you using Dane's spreadsheets on catbikes?
     
  5. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    @Pishpash No, I am using Handbook to Greek and Roman Coins by Klawans, Ancient Collecting 2nd Edition by Sayles, Theromanmint.com, Augustcoins.com and several other websites.
     
  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a call for coins!

    Constantius I (or Constantius Chlorus or Grandpa)
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    Constantius I as Caesar, AD 293-305
    Æ Follis, 29mm, 9.6g, 12h; Trier mint, AD 303
    Obv.: CONSTANTIVS NOBIL C, laureate and cuirassed bust right /
    Rev.: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI, Genius standing left, wearing modius on head, holding patera and cornucopiae; S-F
    In Ex.: ITR

    Constantine (Daddy)
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    Constantine I, AD 306-337
    Æ follis, 22mm, 2.9g, 12h; Rome mint, AD 314-315.
    Obv.: IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: SOLI INV-I-CTO COMITI, Sol standing half left, radiate, nude but for chlamys over shoulders and left arm, raising right hand commanding the sun to rise, globe in left hand, R over X on left, F on right
    In Ex.: RS

    The Boys

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    Constans, 333-337 AD
    AE3; Siscia mint: 347 AD.
    Obv.: CONSTAN-S PF AVG; rosette-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: VICTOR-IA AVGG; Victory walking left holding wreath in each hand, Chi-Rho in right field // *ASIS*

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    Constantine II
    AE Reduced follis, 18mm, 3.1g; 6h; London, 318 AD
    Obv.: FL CL CONSTANTINVS IVN NC; Bust laureate, draped cuirassed, seen from back
    Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Prince in military dress, standing right, cloak spread, leaning on reversed vertical spear, hand resting on shield; crescent right
    In Ex.: PLN

    The one they don't talk about at Christmas:
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    Crispus Caesar, AD 317-326
    Ӕ Follis, 18m, 3.1g, 6h; London mint, AD 318
    Obv.: FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, Laureate draped cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Crispus standing right in military dress, holding spear and shield, crescent in left field
    In Ex.: PLN
     
  7. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    I like that idea!
     
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  8. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE


    CONSTANTIUS I

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    RI Constantius I Chlorus 293-306 CE DIVO AE Quinarius Thesalonika 317-318 Seated RIC VII 25 R5 RARE

    CONSTANTINE I
    RI Constantine I AVG Follis Votive XX seated captives 2.69g 18mm RIC VII 191 London.JPG
    RI Constantine I AVG Follis Votive XX seated captives 2.69g 18mm RIC VII 191 London

    CONSTANTINE II
    RI Constantine II 337-340 CE AE3 GLORIA EXERCITVS Glory to the Army 2 Soldiers 2 Standards.jpg
    RI Constantine II 337-340 CE AE3 GLORIA EXERCITVS Glory to the Army 2 Soldiers 2 Standards

    CONSTANS
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    RI Constans 337-350 Æ Follis 22mm 3.9g Heraclea AD348-351 holding globe - FEL TEMP REPARATIO soldier spear leads figure from hut

    CRISPUS
    RI Crispus 317-326 CE AE Folles Caesar in Trier Campgate - Heraclea mint.jpg
    RI Crispus 317-326 CE AE Folles Caesar in Trier Campgate - Heraclea mint

    FAUSTA
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    RI Fausta 325-326 CE AE3 Spes stdg 2 infants SMHA 20mm 3.48g scratch over eye damnatio memoriae by Constantine

    CONSTANTINE MOMMY - HELENA
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    RI Helena mother Constantine AE Follis Securitas Nicomedia mint 325-326 CE 19mm 3.3g RIC-95 Sear 16619
     
  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Here's a little quiz. These three coins were all issued by a certain Constantius. Which is Constantius I, which is Constantius II, and which is Constantius Gallus?

    quiz 1.jpg

    quiz 2.jpg

    quiz 3.jpg
     
  12. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    my guess is the first coin is Constantius I, second coin is Gallus, and the third coin is Constantius II
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Gallus is correct the other two are swapped. Here are three more, which is (are) Constantius II?
    rx6325bb2691.jpg rx6328bb2807.jpg rx6360bb2249.jpg

    Hint, he ruled for 40 years.
     
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  14. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    A version of the first coin is what started my rage this evening. But, I think one and three.
     
  15. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I am thinking all three of them?
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Very good! The man issued coins for forty years from 15 mints. Variety is to be expected.
     
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  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Level 2. Which of these three coins were issued by Constantius II?

    quiz 1.jpg quiz 2.jpg quiz 3.jpg
     
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  19. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Edited to say, I thought I had a clue (all three) but, something is making me change my mind about that last one - like someone else issued it although it features Constantius II?
     
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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Here's a clue: CCCL.
     
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  21. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    @John Anthony According to the website I checked, this legend D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG identifies Constantius II....all three have this legend....so if the website is right it's all three. But, I do wonder if you would have it be all three a second time
     
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