My U.S. Numismatic and Cartographic Historical Wallhanging project.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ValpoBeginner, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    My Friday night home improvement project.

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    The middle picture is of an 1845 Indiana Map, a 1845 cent in the corner.

    Here is a close up of the framed coins in 2X2's.
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    I only put non-top of the line quality coins in here so people could take it down and look through the back of the transparent frame. I'm too afraid of putting high value examples in it.
     
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  3. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    High value coin is "pocket coin".
    I counted four pocket coins there, 1c coins with dates; 1884, 1909, 1943 and 1955.
    However, 1955 coin that you call Lincoln wheat penny looks clearly clean, it should be in the pocket.
    It's equivalent to 2017 1c coin, design/motif/etc differences don't matter.
    (of course, it is better to have latest minted 1c coin in the pocket, for easier communication with youngers than us.)
    Again, the best coin, highest value coin is constantly kept coin in the pocket, not to be given into the circulation and not to be hanged on the wall, etc.

    Ps: It seems that coin collectors are not used to "pocket". They are keeping coins either in the collection boxes or spending them. Its place of 1c is the pocket only.
     
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  4. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    Sorry not familiar with the term "pocket" ? Can you explain what you mean?

    The reason I've included the 1955 S is to show the evolution of the designer Victor David Brenner's initials being moved from the back being removed and then added to the front. Also I think the composition is different from the original bronze cents.

    Thank you for your observances. I just created this last night in hopes that guests coming in tonight might take an interest in my hobby. I am aware that this is not a complete type coin set. I'll be taking it down and placing the coins back into their rightful places after the Popcorn festival for which I am having guests.

    P. S. The nicer coins are in flips in which I removed the cellophane and then subsequently vaccuum sealed the coins in acetate flips. and then reinstslled them in flips.
     
  5. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    I'll try. (probably, you too will have to try, to understand, when you realize English is not "my" language.)

    In your case, that's, you will be having guests. If all of those guests are not from coin collecting community, then, not all of them will be interested in seeing your coin hobby really. Then, since you are the host you need to do something else so that your all guests can be interested in seeing it.

    You know. We have moneys (dimes, quarters, $1s, $100s, etc) in our pocket/wallet. But, these moneys come (by earning) and go (by spending). Yes, these moneys too are "pocket" moneys, but, "temporary" pocket moneys. And, these kinds of temporary moneys can not be shown to the guests as a show as it is a rude behaviour to do such a thing as we know. However, still, there is a money/coin which can be shown to all guests, from 7 years old to 777 years old. What is it? It is 1c coin... Since it is "constant" of money (that's explained in "coin with/out numerals" thread in detail) it is constantly/always kept in the pocket, unlike all other coins&notes which are temporary pocket moneys. Your all guests including collectors and non-collectors will be interested in seeing 1c coin when you are taking it out of your pocket... (Yes, it is like a joke.. But, it is also a social interaction, not only with some of guests, but, with all. And also, 1c coin is a link to your coin hobby. After they see it in your hand, it will also attract all of your guests to your other hobby coins. There are other advantages also, but, that's enough now.)

    So, real "pocket" coin is 1c coin... at least one 1c coin, constantly/always, in the pocket.
     
  6. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    You English is not bad, I could follow your logic. Let's see... is Italian, your primary language? My second guess would be Greek.

    Ok yes I understand what you are trying to convey to me: That I might be a better host if I were to pull some change out of my pocket and say something like "Isn't this Interesting?", which would promote active and participatory conversation about coins.

    I like your idea, but I find that quite a few people are not not interested in coins at all, and this might force an unwanted conversation. Under these circumstances, I will know if someone's thinks it is interesting, by their mention of my hanging picture on my wall. Therefore I can engage in talking about my passion for coins, with them because they mentioned it.

    This is why I hung it up on the way. If they look at it with interest .... Then I can pull them aside and get some of my good stuff out of the safe to show them.

    I find that pocket change conversations work best when I'm at a hotel bar. If I see a lady who is looking closely at her change I will lead with one of my coins that I carry on me.

    Do you understand why I am doing it this way?

    The reason I will take it down after the party, especially the banknotes, is because I don't want to be a target for theft later on. The top ten dollar bill is a 1950E Star Note. So I'll lock them up after the party.

    Cheers.
     
  7. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    No, you should not say so. "Isn't this interesting" can be said when it is a rare/collection/etc piece. Also, it will be low kidding when it is "dime/quarter/etc" in your hand if you say so. What I mentioned is 1cent coin, only 1cent... It is different than all others, collection pieces and current circulating coins like dime/etc. No need to say anything when taking 1cent coin out of your pocket and showing it in your hand. When they see it every person will interpreate differently, according to their views/problems/etc, like "luck/chance/fortune/memory/etc", leave how they will react to it to them.

    I do so here. I take 1kurus coin out of my pocket and keep it in my hand so that they see and they start making comments/conversations and the rest is easy. However, if they are beggars/thefts/etc who are approaching me for other moneys, they disappear immediately as soon as they see 1kurus coin in my hand. (It may also work for ladies who are preferred to be kept away. However, I'm not experienced in this like you, so, you know it better.)

    Key point in your case is that 1cent coin in your pocket is a link between "reality" money/coins that are current circulating money/coins and collected coins. 1cent coin is neither a reality coin nor a collection coin, but also, the both as it is collected/kept only in the pocket and without circulating in the trade. People/guests, non-collectors, are more interested in "reality" moneys/coins. But, they will be confused when they see 1cent coin in your hand... That confusion in them will make a conversation start and the rest, to get them to your coins hanged on the wall etc becomes easy, at least, easier than suddenly taking them to your collection like sudden spot-lighting.

    Ps: For where I am from, you can see it from "1kurus coin in my pocket."
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    The guy is a Turk, and a nut. Pay no heed to him.......
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Oh, sorry.......worthy endeavor Valpo. I think you've got something there.......:)
     
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  10. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    When did we get a new troll? Welcome aboard, besides collecting coins, my other hobbies include trolling the trolls.
     
  11. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

  12. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    You are spelling wrong, am not troll, am erol...
    (ok, this is a troll line, just to show how a troll speaks, a troll just leaves a single line in every thread and does not speak more to explain etc... erol is doing that?)

    I see that I'm being accused of being a troll here.
    When there is offense there is defense, action-reaction, a law of nature.

    Members and non-members, you are the grand jury here, lets see what happened in this thread.

    If you look at the date of OP (ValpoBeginner, Yesterday at 9:46 AM), and at the date of first response, that's mine (ErolGarip, Yesterday at 4:11 PM), there is about 7 hours difference. That's, there was no reply/comment in the thread and this thread was about to die/disappear from first page of forum.

    Then, I entered the room and stimulated the thread with a post which is not irrelevant to the topic that became also about how to show a coin collection to guests as seen clearly also in his next post of ValpoBeginner.

    While conversation was going on the way toward a fruitful talk, someone (Green18) who is not a coin searcher, but, probably a troll searcher frequently jumping into the rooms without knocking the door entered the room and left a short line or two which was off-topic as seen above.

    Then, another one (Kirkuleez) who is not a coin hunter, but, probably a troll hunter entered the room and fired his troll hunting gun around.

    Then, another one (CoinCorgi) must have heard the sound of gun, probably thought that Kirkuleez fired his last bullet, feeling safe, he entered the room to say "yeah, I told you, erol is troll"... Is it true? (not asking this to CoinCorgi as I see this in his profile signature "Believe me, there is such a thing as a stupid question."...

    (Now, someones, eg, Kentucky, Trubles, et al, too may come in here and they too may start to fire against erol here. I advice them to fire in the "coin with/out numerals" thread, not here.)

    After all. Enough in this thread. Before leaving this thread, I'm gonna say this as last:

    What about real life trolls? They are issuing one cent coins, but, they themselves are not taking one in their pockets... This is like "their ears not hearing what they themselves are speaking".

    Ps: ValpoBeginner, I did not say I was Italian, Greek, Turk, etc, not to go off-topic. And, it is not important. My identity card in my pocket here is 1kurus that tells my current location. When/if I go to, for ex, Israel, I'll also have one 1agora in my pocket. When/if I go to the US, I'll also have one 1cent in my pocket. Etc. No, that "small" 1coin is not a gun bullet, it is a "big" shield against their attacks of real life trolls who has no 1cent coin in their pocket and whose attacks against erol with one cent coin in his pocket simply fail.
     
  13. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Hey, I simply asked when we got a new troll because I just really like trolling them back. I never named who I was considering a troll, but you decided to get all defensive. Your trollness is weak young grasshopper.
     
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