What do you grade this Indian Cent?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I find these 1859's sort of tough for me to grade. There are areas of weakness that always seem "off." For example, the leaves on the reverse are stronger at the bottom and weaker at the top. On the obverse, the feathers are strong, but the diamonds on the ribbon are weak. The rims look pretty good, however, and there's a touch of luster. I feel like PCGS will give this XF40, but I'm not sure. I grade it XF45. I paid $42.50. Your thoughts? DSCN9056-horz.jpg
     
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  3. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Not my series, but I'd say AU53.
     
  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    That would be a nice surprise!
     
  5. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    VF35 or EF40...

    Some of it is Strike but it's uneven wear on the tips of the feathers and the leaves on the reverse.
     
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  6. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    I would be embarrassed to post a photo of my 1859 after seeing this. Of course I paid less than $20 for mine, which, comparatively wasn't a bad deal.
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    This looks to be how the Mint learned which areas fill last on an 1859 IHC. :)

    Weakly-struck in that area, just like the shoulder and upper left reverse of a Lincoln, and EF45 all day with that factored in.
     
  8. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

  9. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I would say AU something.

    Might be XF45
     
  10. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I have no issues with seeing this as an XF-45. For it to get an EF-40 would be a net grade for the couple of hits on the chin. I think you did well on that pickup.
     
  11. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    The answer is: EF-40
     
  12. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this coin is clearly an EF-45
     
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  13. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Pretty cruel to get his hopes up.
    Especially when it's clearly a 40.
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Must be the nickel content.........the mints' very first experience at dealing with such an alloy (.880 copper, .120 nickel). XF-45........
     
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  15. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Is it going to be graded?
     
  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yes. Economy at PCGS.
     
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  17. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Unusual mix.
     
  18. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Is it just me, or do the surfaces look odd?
    Like environmental damage odd?
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yes, it's just you. :p

    C-B-D's camera sometimes introduces slight oversharpening to an image, which can lead to the possible appearance of graininess on the surfaces. The hue is something we'd expect of this particular alloy, pretty unique in US mintage.

    Have a look at the rim to see how much fun they were having, getting the rim gutter to fill. There must have been people pulling their hair out at the Mint. :)
     
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  20. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Looks like a 45 to me.
     
  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think XF40
     
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