1867 Two Cent for grading

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    This one arrived today. First glance made me think "cleaned," but what I perceived to be evidence of polishing was actually die polish lines (they all go under the devices, none over, plus they are raised) and a semi-PL surface.

    Pardon my bad pictures. I will eventually find a good lighting spot in my apartment. The dark areas are shadows from my iPad.

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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Let us know how it grades!
     
  4. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    hard to imagine copper this old staying that color naturally
     
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  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    My thoughts too, but it does happen.
     
  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think @GDJMSP got tired of responding to a thumbs up.
    I am missing a MS example, I'll find one.
    Way to go!
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That's a beauty. Dunno if the color will pass muster at a TPG or not. Keep us posted!
     
  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I will show it to Bill Fivaz this weekend. Before I submit or sell as original, I would like a professional's opinion.
     
  9. Oldrdawg

    Oldrdawg Active Member

    If it hasn't been cleaned, it's a home run . . .
     
  10. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Very nice coin but do I spy with my little eye a die crack on the E in America?
     
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  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Where's Ed Wood when you need him?
    If that is original luster/ color this is a fantastic piece. AU-58/MS-63.
    An MS straight grade is a home run as was mentioned previously. It looks like an MS coin but I put AU-58 on the low end, because it's difficult to tell in photos if something has wear or not unless you have the coin in hand for a close examination with a loupe.
    A beauty.
     
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  12. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    That's a pretty coin, but I'm not liking the light halo around the devices seen mainly on the obverse. I hope they don't call this cleaning on you, I've certainly seen worse in straight grade holders. The color doesn't seems that far off to me.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't understand your comment, but curiosity has got the best of me, care to explain ?
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The halo is the result of my lighting. I certainly did not notice it when I was examining the coin yesterday. I will look again when I get home.
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I obviously was emptying to many Coors lights last night. I am not sure exactly what that meant except, I hear that there used to be a thumbs up imoji.
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Better pictures. These capture the color more accurately. I'm still having issues with my iPad's shadow.

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  17. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I looked at the coin in hand, and I saw some semblance of halos, but they look lustrous. On a whim, I pulled out my semi-PL Morgan, and I saw the same halo around the devices. My guess is that there is extra pressure on the die near the edges of the devices as it is a point of changed metal flow, so die wears (and thus cartwheel coin luster is produced) here first.

    The two cent is semi-Pl and just covered in die polishing lines, just like my semi-PL Morgan.
     
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  18. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I really like your coin. Tell us when it grades.
     
  19. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    You does. There are several other cracks on the reverse around UNITED STATED OF AMERICA.
     
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's pretty but it looks too red to me.
     
  21. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Member

    The second S in "STATES" looks a little off, and the "T" in trust looks faint... but that's just my observation... I agree, it IS a beautiful coin, exactly 100 years older than me.
    ;-)
     
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