1983-D Quarters

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Norman Asis, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Good evening! I just have a quick question regarding the '83 quarters. Do all 1983-D quarters share the similar die characteristic where the letters I and N from "In God We Trust" appears to have fused together? Is this an error or is this a result of die degradation? I hope to get some insight and info from you guys. Thanks and have a good night. IMG_20170828_233302786.jpg IMG_20170828_233245497.jpg
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Wear and tear on a that coin. Possible started out as a grease filled die in that area but it mainly looks worn to me.
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Let's see! I suspect that if you walked around town for 34 years and everyone tossed you into drawers like a mini-Frisbee that your front teeth would take a pretty good beating, too! J/K!

    Chris
     
  5. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I think I remember seeing a fair number 1983 and 84 that are weak around the edges. Old memory, so I won't swear to it, but I don't believe it's unusual for these dates.
     
  6. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    It's poor strikes from worn dies but there are a few good strikes out there.
     
  7. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    By coincidence, my wife handed me two quarters that she found somewhere just a few minutes ago. Strangely enough, one of them is a 1983-D that would qualify as a good strike.
     
  8. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Good morning! So, are they considered strike errors or just a result of wear and tear? I saw a video on you tube, I forgot which one it was, but he was saying that '83 quarters are getting harder to come by and suggested to hold on to it. What's are your thoughts on it? Thanks
     
  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Like @cladking said; worn/deteriorated dies, so it's not PMD from circulation. They really aren't worth anything more than face value.

    Are coins struck from worn dies considered mint errors? That may turn into an interesting discussion.

    YouTube seems to be filled with lots of misinformation, and things that are just plain wrong. Unless the poster is someone with some credibility in the numismatic field (respected dealer, researcher, or well known contributor to the Coin boards), I would be skeptical of anything until it can be confirmed by other sources.

    That being said, strong strikes on Uncirculated quarters on some specific dates in the 80's can command a premium.(I think the 83's are tough). Chances of finding a high grade 83 in change is slim, however
     
  10. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Well struck examples are hard to come by because very few folks, back then, saved any. Also too.......there were no mint sets produced that year. Only the mint gift shop sets and if you couldn't make it to Philly or Denver, you were out of luck. Take a look on ebay and see what these sets go for.
     
  12. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    How are they at giving grading opinions??? Think about throwing some raw meat to a pack of starving wolves :happy:

    Post some pics of a coin as a separate thread. You should be able to an idea from the responses. Please note: picture quality, magnification and lighting are important variables. Also, have a thick skin if the consensus says your pristine coin has some light wear or too many marks.
     
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  13. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Ok thanks. I'd rather that they be blunt so I can have a better idea on what else I need to focus on when sorting out coins. Appreciate it man.
     
  14. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    They aren't really errors, per se, just poor quality. A lot of the clads made for circulation are horrendous quality, especially in those days.

    I'd save nice '82 and '83 quarters that are attractive and have little wear like one of those you pictured. Anything under a nice clean well struck VF I wouldn't bother with.
     
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  15. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    About one in ten '83-D's has a good strike and about one in a hundred is what I call a "full strike". The '82-P is the toughest to find well made. About one in 150 has a good strike and I've never really seen one with what I call a full strike but I have a few (five or ten) that come close. These all came from the same bag. There are a few in the privately minted sets as well.

    In some ways the '83-D is pretty well stuck since the problem is more related to worn dies in most cases. The actual strikes tend to be better centered and full tonnage. Finding pristine examples is very tough.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It helps to know that this year was an "on our way to economic recovery" year. Hence, demand for coinage in commerce was running ahead of the recent years and the "processes" that were in place. In short, it was a "coin shortage" year. Dies were used hard, REAL hard. Truly nice 1983 coinage is somewhat tough to find. Getting the Zincoln cent right was garnering most of the quality control attention, not that they were terribly successful. The Zincoln was a pretty rough thing until about 1987/88.
     
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  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I saw that @mikenoodle once posted a gorgeous 1983 quarter here, not sure if Philly or Denver, but I've seen VERY few nicer, if ANY.
     
  18. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    The one I posted is a P. I still haven't had the guts to submit it.

    I would also add that 1983 is a year without Mint Sets and therefore all 1983 coins are difficult to find in uncirculated condition.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm adopting the viewpoint that the coin is what the coin is, raw, slabbed, in pliofilm, paper, or cat litter. That '83 is a stunner. I don't need NGC or PCGS to tell me so.
     
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