New Hammered Penny

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Picked up another medieval penny, this one is Edward II.

    Another cheap grab.

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    Edward II (1307-1327 A.D.)
    AR Penny
    Class 15b
    O: EDWAR R ANGL DNS HYB, Crowned facing bust.
    R:VILL SCI EDMVNDI, Voided long cross pattée; three pellets in quarters
    17.8mm
    1.03g
    Bury St Edmunds (1320 - c.1333)
    Spink # 1462. North 1067.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2017
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  3. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Great coin Mat. It has a super nice portrait for the type.
     
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  4. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Why have I not gone around to buying one of these yet?

    I seriously need to buy one. They are affordable and historically significant.
     
  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice coin Mat. I do not have one of Edward II. I do however have one of Edward I one of Edward III and one of Edward IV Edward I.png Edward III.jpg Edward IV Berk.png .
     
  6. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Great coins @Mat and @Orfew
    I recently added a penny of his grandfather, Henry III, who was a fairly weak king, but minted some nice coins.
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    Henry III. AR Penny (18mm, 1.46 g, 6h). Long Cross type, class Vb2. London mint; Nicholas of St. Albans, moneyer. Struck circa 1251-1252 AD.
    Obv: HENRICUS REX III, Crowned facing bust holding scepter.
    Rev: NICOLЄ OH LV(ND), voided long cross, with trefoil in each quarter.
    North 992/2; SCBC 1368.
     
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  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That's a great coin Mat. I like that facing portrait!
     
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice portrait on that one. Cool addition Mat
     
  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Beautiful Henry III. Mine is a little more humble, though it is a rarer Walter on Canterbury and has quite a provenance.

    Henry III Voided Long Cross Penny Walter Canterburry.jpg
     
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    My Henry III is sadder.

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    Henry III (1216-1272 A.D)
    AR Penny
    Long Cross type Class 3b
    Engraver: Nicholas of St. Albans
    O: hЄNRICVS RЄX | III, Crowned facing portrait of King Henry III, 6 pointed star straddles central crown ornament, legend from 12 o'clock.
    R: NIC OLE ONL VND, Voided long cross with trefoil of pellets in each angle.
    London mint
    18mm
    1.31g
    North 987
     
  11. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Sallent. You don't see Walter very often for Henry III and the fact that your coin has a provenance going back to 1954, if not further, is great. It's a coin I'd love to have in my collection.

    @Mat I think the moneyer of your penny is misattributed. To my eyes the reverse legend reads hEN/RI O/N LV/NDE, which would make it Henry and not Nicholas.

    I'll add another Henry III with an old stock ticket.
    henryIII.jpg Henry III AR Penny (18mm 1.42g), Long Cross type Class 3b. York mint; Ieremie moneyer. Struck circa 1248-1250 AD
    Obv: HENRICVS REX III, i.m. star, crowned facing bust of Henry.
    Rev: IEREMIE ON EVER, voided long cross with trefoil of pellets in each angle.
    N.987; S.1363
     
  12. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    We'll, here is the coin with the entire provenance according to York Coins plus research I did on the previous owners.

    Henry III Voided Long Cross Penny Walter Canterburry.jpg
    ENGLAND, Henry III (1216-1272), Penny, 1.32g., Voided Long Cross Coinage, Class 5g, (1251-1272), Walter - Canterbury, crowned facing bust of Henry, HENRICVS REX III, rev., voided long cross with trefoil of pellets in each angle, WALTER ON CANT, (N.997; S.1373), very fine.
    Ex: York Coins
    Ex Patrick Finn.
    Ex W. J. Conte Collection
    Ex J. J. North Collection
    (ticket included).
    Ex Glendinings Auction, June 15th, 1954, part lot 266.

    LOOK AT THAT PROVENANCE!!!:eek::greedy::wideyed:

    Ex York Coins - A New York based dealer specializing on English hammered coins, and a member in good standing of Vcoins.

    Ex Patrick Finn - Patrick Finn was a former director of Spink Auction House in the UK, a member of the British Numismatic Society, author/researcher on the topic of medieval English coins, and one of the preeminent dealers of medieval English coins in the UK. Patrick passed away in the year 2000 after collapsing at a coin show.

    Ex Dr. William J. Conte - William J. Conte was an American geneticist and one of the top world experts on Norman coinage. He amassed one of the largest and most complete collections of medieval English coinage, and when he passed away he donated a large portion of it to a museum for permanent display to the public.

    Ex J. J. North - J. J. North wrote the entire set of reference books for English hammered coins. He was one of the most accomplished numismatist writers in British history. So much so that the British Numismatics Society created an award in his honor, given in the form of medal to numismatists whose work contributes greatly to numismatics publication.

    Ex Glendinings Auction: June 15, 1954, Part lot 266 - I don't think this auction house is still in business as I have not been able to find anything recent, but it was a major auction house for things such as british coins, british service medals, british medallions, and other collectables of that nature.

    Could be Ex: Sallent soon too, as I am thinking of selling it to help fund some of my Ancient Roman coin collecting goals...which personally is more my cup of tea than medievals.
     
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  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Could just put it aside and and kinda forget about as medievals might tempt you again in the future.
     
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  14. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I loved gettin' hammered for cheap! Nicely done!

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  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I still need some of those for my british coins collection, well done @Mat (I don't have anything earlier than Lizzy I at the moment)

    Q
     
  17. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Im surprised, thank thanks.
     
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