2017-s Enhanced Sacagawea Reverse "Doubling"?

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  1. Dough

    Dough My brain is open

    Is this anything to get excited about?

    I'm having flashbacks to the hype over doubling on the Effigy Mounds quarter that lasted almost a day.

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I think I see some splitting. I could be wrong though...It's been known to happen before. Just ask my wife ;)
     
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  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Looks like you have something there. Best get that checked by an expert pronto. Never a better time than to be the first recognized in a new discovery. If it is and was mine it would be slabbed asap and sent off to Heritage.
     
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  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    I would be excited!!!! You might have a big money coin there. On a special proof coin. Yea you should get that to Wexler asap.
    If it is what it looks like it will make coin world!!! Good luck!!!
     
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  6. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Mine are coming in on Saturday. I'll be checking them carefully.
     
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  7. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    That lettering is raised, correct? If it isn't incuse lettering I would be very excited. If incuse, not so much.
     
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  8. Dough

    Dough My brain is open

    It is incuse. That's what made me think of the Effigy quarter. Does this look like a type of machine doubling that's common for incuse lettering?
     
  9. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Dang! It doesn't have the "smeared" look I often see on the Nat. Park quarters, but the incuse lettering gets thinner and distorted on doubled dies. It works the opposite of normal. It shows well on BUS on 2013P-DDR-001.

    http://varietyvista.com/01e LC Doubled Dies Vol 5/2013PDDR001 cent.htm

    The image below is from webpage above, by James Wiles

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    I might would still have it looked at. I thought for sure it was a doubled die until you said it was incuse.
     
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  10. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    It looked raised to me. Photos can trick your eyes. Boy does that photo look good. Oh well sorry.
     
  11. Hal1950

    Hal1950 Old Dog

    So has anyone come up with anything definitive on this anomaly?
     
  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    @Fred Weinberg Could you possibly tell us anything from this photo? Thanks. Tom
     
  13. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    As mentioned above, If the lettering is incused,
    it's hard to determine from the photos.

    It looks like a DD, but someone will have to view the
    coin in-hand to make that determination.
     
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  14. Dough

    Dough My brain is open

    @Fred Weinberg

    If I brought it to table #833 in a couple of weeks would you mind taking a look?
     
  15. Dough

    Dough My brain is open

    It's no longer an anomaly. These are three different dollars from the same box of mint sets. Same photography setup, position and focal point. The only difference is that the first two are still in the Mint holder and the third is in a flip.

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  16. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    I think this is a common occurrence on this coin. I have 4 sets that all show this on the 'script' lettering on the East side. They are not smeared like the ATB quarters typically show, but have distinct 'doubling' of the whole letters. Mine do have the outer smear on the USA side. I don't think they are true DD, but just look different from the typical MD of incuse lettering. Like Fred stated above, a more experienced person needs to see these in hand.
     
  17. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Yes, I'll be the Long Beach Show,
    as I have for the past 46 years.

    I'll be glad (and interested!) to see
    the coin in-hand at my table (# 833)
     
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  18. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    IMO, the coin is machine doubled as the appearance of machine doubling on incused lettering looks authentic but is not.
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    My EU Sacs ALL show this type of doubling in one or multiple locations.
     
  19. Dough

    Dough My brain is open

    I just looked at a fourth EU set from a different order than the first three. Same doubling.

    Does anyone have an Enhanced Sacagawea without reverse doubling?
     
  20. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I do. It's the first thing I looked for when my set came. Your images were so good I wanted to study it. None of my coins, even the quarters, exhibit the incuse MD.
     
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