N-30. The doubled bottom of the 1 is diagnostic; N-27's is less consistent at the serifs and also clearly doubled at the top. My heart was in my throat when I read the thread title - 1847 is one I've been quietly looking at every example of I could find for two years. N-30 was briefly married with the reverse of what was later N-7, as N-43. Only one example is known. A PCGS VF25 which sold at Stacks for $28,000 in 2015. https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/1-1FKM0
I know. I held my breath when I looked under a loop. Alas... No lottery win. But hey, R.4 for $23.50? Yes, please!
For the AU50ish coin or for an N-30? Seems like N-30's don't sell often. There's one listed for $1750 by Frisco Mint (which looks like a high AU but cleaned).
His prices are easily double (and sometimes many times more) than what any sensible buyer would pay. I had a 1851 (?) that was an R-4 and struck from the same die pair that struck the proofs for that year. Almost same grade as yours as well (which I grade EF-40). Sold for ~$70. Paid $5, so I was happy.
Yeah, but at any one time there are half a dozen or so on eBay. That means I don't have to settle for less than a good XF if I ever want an N-30, and I know they'll be out there. I don't know about N-7 because I always key on the 1 to narrow the search.
N-30 Cad Tracings of N-27 obverse and N-30 obverse N-27 Cad Tracing overlaid onto OP's coin - Does Not Match N-30 Cad Tracing overlaid on OP's coin - Match N-27 Tracing overlaid onto N-30 Tracing to show variance in placement of date
Your welcome To be honest – the results of Cad Tracing N-27 overlaid onto N-30 surprised me. Being that the triangle created by the 3 stars on each obverse matched indicated to me that a full design Hub (absent of the date) was utilized in creating 1847 Cents. I always thought this particular practice wasn’t adopted by the Mint until much later. Anyway I decided to expand my CAD drawing a bit further by using construction to establish the circumcenter of this triangle. This was done by drawing a perpendicular line from the middle point of each side of the triangle. The point at which these three lines intersect is the circumcenter. Using this intersection of lines as the center pivot point I drew a series of circles. It appears that the circumcenter of this triangle may also be the center point of the entire coin design.
